Guest lurchers&terriers Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 hi all, seems to be a lot of people these days with dogs planning on breeding them before there balls have even dropped or come in to there first season. I don't think a lot of these quite understand the responsibilities that comes with breeding. There's a wee lad there in the lurcher section on about breeding his dog to a greyhound in a years time. why would he even be thinking about it yet. A lot of people use the excuse that they want a pup out of there dog. breeding lurchers seem to be a big problem these days with rescue centres full on them. A lot of people must be thinking of money they are going to make out of the dog before its even had its first slip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 i agree there are a lot of lurchers (and ferrets and terriers) out there already and you can quiet easily pick up what you want at a fraction of the cost of breeding your own! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sph1979 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) I agree, a lad that has 3 pups under 13 months is on about breeding, his dogs havent even caught a rabbit yet He is a c#ck wont listen now he wants to get a lakeland to breed with his mates. needless to say i try my best to aviod him at all costs Edited July 27, 2009 by sph1979 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Same with ferrets . Presumably there's a 'hunting gene' in lurchers too...... Cue 'Leeview' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watchman 256 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 what if,i wanted a pup from my own proven bitch ect,selected the pup of my choice then culled the remaining litter,would i get a pat on the back for not trying to make money out of it,there would be no litter for sale no surplus dogs on the market.bred for me by me also i would not be adding ammunition to the "there are allready a lot of shit dogs unproven out there brigade"this is just a thought not,i repeat not gonna happen its just a thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glass22 0 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) So you want 1? so what happends to the other 7? stick them in the paper and hope some nice family gets stuck with a working dog, you've bred with killing in mind...that will be nice for them. Edited July 27, 2009 by glass22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sue 1 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Ive spent ages looking for a nice good little dog to cross my bitch ,this weekend found the perfect match so next year fingers crossed i get a litter ,my bitch is coming on 6 and none will be on here forsale pups are going to friends if she has enough to go round lol.but the ads on here for selling pups from young dogs themselves is getting bad its a way of making a few quid thats all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flynn 314 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Same with ferrets . Presumably there's a 'hunting gene' in lurchers too...... Cue 'Leeview' what!! a hunting Gene in Lurchers?!!! Your having a laff aint ya :wacko: :secret: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Same with ferrets . Presumably there's a 'hunting gene' in lurchers too...... Cue 'Leeview' what!! a hunting Gene in Lurchers?!!! Your having a laff aint ya :wacko: :secret: You should have checked with your mate before you posted that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 791 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Same with ferrets . Presumably there's a 'hunting gene' in lurchers too...... Cue 'Leeview' On cue and your experience of breeding anything for hunting is? no doubt you 'll avoid answering that question too, Breed the best to the best and you wont go far wrong IMHO and experience Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 what if,i wanted a pup from my own proven bitch ect,selected the pup of my choice then culled the remaining litter,would i get a pat on the back for not trying to make money out of it,there would be no litter for sale no surplus dogs on the market.bred for me by me also i would not be adding ammunition to the "there are allready a lot of shit dogs unproven out there brigade"this is just a thought not,i repeat not gonna happen its just a thought and what is wrong with that its a shame more people with this " i bred the litter to keep one back for myself " dont apply this mentality and cull the excess....no you wouldnt deserve a pat on the back but you would be able to look in the mirror knowing you didnt use your dogs for financial gain and did things the right way.... these people who say they bred a litter to keep one back are just bullshitters trying to justify making money out of dogs.....10 pups....1 kept back....leaves 90 % for sale !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watchman 256 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 your spot on mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 On cue and your experience of breeding anything for hunting is? Absolutely zero. In other words about the same as your knowledge of genetics. And now I've answered your question, here's mine: Do you believe that there is/are gene/s for 'hunting ability? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Do you believe that there is/are gene/s for 'hunting ability? yes and no genetics affect the mind as well as the body in development and ability, so animals which are better hunters are more likely to produce better hunters...............all small dogs (in my experience) will hunt rabbits and kill rats..........................but a decent bred terrier or small hound with working parents is better at it than a lapdog ( i have seen a miniture poodle flush rabbits and the same dog killed rats in the bottom of its owners pigeon loft - it was bought for his wife but followed the bloke around and took to ratting- that said it wasn't as adept as a small hound for bushing rabbits or as a terrier for ratting, but it worked and helped the owner out) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 791 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 On cue and your experience of breeding anything for hunting is? Absolutely zero. In other words about the same as your knowledge of genetics. And now I've answered your question, here's mine: Do you believe that there is/are gene/s for 'hunting ability? Thanks for the honest answer, so you admit never breeding anything to do with hunting? so my knowledge comes from actually having bred dogs and ferrets for hunting ability, your experience comes from what you've read or been led to believe? Is that right? You in your wisdom have stated there isnt a GENE for hunting ability, so where does the hunting ability come from when you breed? what is it that makes it stand out from others? be it ferret, dog, horse or even racing pigeon why if they all have the same genes are they not equal? I've stated before the case of breeding silver ferrets explain to me please why my first litter silver hobx albino jill produced 7kits 5 silver, 2albino which is an unusual high incidence of silvers IMHO the following year repeat mating exactly same parents produced 8kits 2silver 6albinos how does that work out genetically? same genetics from the parents so why the variation? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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