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Jesus are you for real there shud b a seperate class for with lakelands, well a bet you'll not be in the working class :clapper:
whys that then nixy you sayin white lakelands dont work i`ve kept and bred them for 30yr davies/gould plenty of lads on here will tell you mine graft .. i threw the seperate class for lakelands in just to see if anyone took the bait i stopped showing years ago but when i did i won just about every major show going during the 80s and early 90s and plenty of entered classes along the way ...

so are you sayin i took the bait or waz it ment to weed out the show types.

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I think its more down to long hair coat but am prob wrong but i'd like to know myself
here goes flack jacket and tin helmet at the ready -- the saying goes that the patterdale is named after a village in cumbria where the type of terrier where promident .. the fell terrier name has been around since the late 1700 early 1800s the patterdale name was derieved in the 1950s .. brey/buck and later nuttall developed the patterdale type further . patts are usauly know for havin a smooth coat ... :tongue2: other breeders added bull to get the type of terrier ....

thanks stig didnt know bout the dates interesting though ;)

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are your terriers bred for the showing job stig, or do you work them,you seem well educated on the names of a lot of dog dealers and the pedigree of there dogs,i am not being nasty just curious to weather your a sales man or you actually work your terriers,its unbelivable just how many people dont work there terriers nowadays to the extent that when you go to the agricultural shows in the lake district you feel out of place at the terrier ring as you have nothing in common with the people showing terriers as theres non of them dig to them,they just talk of pedigrees and litters of pups,with no mention of work at all.

 

 

Having pedigrees (I don't say of any club, pedigree is pedigree even if it's hand written) and knowing the anchestors doesn't make the man worst or showing one or puppy miller. Some people worth knowing their dogs/lines. I'd be very happy to know more and more about the work and life of my dogs' anchestors.

 

 

ps.: I'm pretty much concerned you are wrong about Stig.

 

ATB,

 

 

Anna

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you buy pups off him do you,very important to know how your dogs bred i agree,most people just make pedigrees up depending whats fasnoble at the time,sounds better when there bullshiting at the terrier show,more lies more proffit.

 

I buy dogs from whom I trust. None of my dogs are KC pedigreed. (I don't live in the GB, so those pedigrees really only worth a piece of paper, I can not show my dogs with those papers.)

 

No offence taken, mate!

 

 

ATB,

 

 

Anna

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As I see it all terriers where produced by selective breeding. Terriers are made up of dfferent types of terrier .will the border lakeland cross one day become a breed on its own will the patt be renamed the black lakeland .who knows it is partly fashion that certain dogs become popular and a pigeon hole created .

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ps.: I of cource don't expext them to know each and every anchestor, they can only know what they were told.

I don't give it bigger importancy to it as it neccessairly needed.

I just come to say that having/knowing pedigrees and names can go hand by hand with working the terriers. ;)

 

 

 

ATB,

 

 

Anna

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THE PATTERDALE TERRIER

got realy popular in the early 80,s unfortunatley,i say that because of all the shite being produced 20odd years on

 

every body has there own opinions

mine

 

i regard a patt (as a smooth predomenently black terrier,cobby in build with a bully look)

a fell as(a rough /brocken coated red /black in couler long in leg/staight,with lakeie influence in its features)

 

NOW ASK ME WHAT A WORKIN TERRIER SHOULD LOOK LIKE ''''THAT A DIFFRENT ''Q''ALTOGETHER :hmm::hmm::hmm: HAHAHAHAAH

just my opinion

 

YOURS IN SPORT

sooty92

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fred thanks for your interest -- not only have i enjoyed the working side of the terrier game but also the showing side of it for the best part of 40 years - during that length of time your bound to get to know a lot of people i`ve dug with some of the top names in the country - maybe one day i`ll write a book .. as for being a salesman read some of my other posts i`ve not bred that many litters in the time i`ve kept terriers only bred for mine and my mates use and sold the grand total of 4 pups and 1 adult dog ..

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fred thanks for your interest -- not only have i enjoyed the working side of the terrier game but also the showing side of it for the best part of 40 years - during that length of time your bound to get to know a lot of people i`ve dug with some of the top names in the country - maybe one day i`ll write a book .. as for being a salesman read some of my other posts i`ve not bred that may litters in the time i`ve kept terriers only bred for mine and my mates use and sold the grand total of 4 pups and 1 adult dog ..

 

As your obviously well into the breeding an history of the Patt/Fell terrier where did the chocolate coloured ones come into the lines.

I've seen both rough and smooth grafting an own a smooth (for now) 6 month old so don't know how it'll turn out yet.

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fred thanks for your interest -- not only have i enjoyed the working side of the terrier game but also the showing side of it for the best part of 40 years - during that length of time your bound to get to know a lot of people i`ve dug with some of the top names in the country - maybe one day i`ll write a book .. as for being a salesman read some of my other posts i`ve not bred that may litters in the time i`ve kept terriers only bred for mine and my mates use and sold the grand total of 4 pups and 1 adult dog ..

 

As your obviously well into the breeding an history of the Patt/Fell terrier where did the chocolate coloured ones come into the lines.

I've seen both rough and smooth grafting an own a smooth (for now) 6 month old so don't know how it'll turn out yet.

Some say Bedlington blood way back .lavrock

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just a quick question for stig did you breed the first white terriers you owned and call white lakelands or did you buy them in , what was used to get the white,and who did you buy them off if not home bred.
quick answer --first white lakeland i had came from gm around 1980 only white un in the litter put back to a dog owned by gerald corby .. later added gould/davies .. Edited by the_stig
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just a quick question for stig did you breed the first white terriers you owned and call white lakelands or did you buy them in , what was used to get the white,and who did you buy them off if not home bred.
quick answer --first white lakeland i had came from gm around 1980 only white un in the litter put back to a dog owned by gerald corby .. later added gould/davies ..

 

G Corby thats a name Ive not heard of for a while

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