fishkeeper 0 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Well said bhawk i wholely agree with what you say . fishkeeper Link to post
mushroom 12,827 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) You have a serious beef but you can make a good point. I don't agree with any of the b#llocks that the so called wildlife defenders get up to, especially what you have posted. So I'm understanding your problem, do not doubt this. But most people have a problem with the conviction hanging over you, myself included. Edited August 14, 2009 by mushroom Link to post
DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 You have a serious beef but you can make a good point. I don't agree with any of the b#llocks that the so called wildlife defenders get up to, especially what you have posted. So I'm understanding your problem, do not doubt this. But most people have a problem with the convition hanging over you, myself included. My conviction was obtained by lies and bogus information which I am ADDRESSING through various means. What we are looking for is an investigation into the RSPB in totality. My case is only one of many aspects that need to be investigated in relation to the role of the RSPB. Note that I have been told the police do not want to use the RSPB and the RSPCA anymore which is a positive step towards justice for bird keepers. Rare Birds Seized Torquay 9:20am Monday 10th August 2009 Comments (0) Have your say » Eight rare Goshawks were examined and one seized in an early morning raid near Torquay. Police and animal health inspectors found the protected birds in properties in the Torquay and Kingsbridge areas. Police wildlife crime officers, supported by the National Wildlife Crime Unit and animal health inspectors and vets, swooped on the properties shortly after 7am on Thursday, August 6. Blood samples taken from the birds have been sent away for analysis. Alan Roberts, investigative support officer for the National Wildlife Crime Unit, explained that goshawks are a protected species under the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act. "In the last few weeks there have been a number of rare birds seized in similar circumstances throughout the country," he said. "It is unfortunately and all too common offence. "We hope that this latest recovery will send out a very strong message to anyone considering taking or harming protected birds that specialist officers will investigate and bring offenders before the courts." Mr Roberts also urged anyone with information about wildlife crime to contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111. A 40-year-old man from the Torquay area was arrested as part of the operation and later released on police bail until October 28 pending further enquiries. My conviction was obtained by lies and bogus information which I am ADDRESSING through various means. What we are looking for is an investigation into the RSPB in totality. My case is only one of many aspects that need to be investigated in relation to the role of the RSPB. Note that I have been told the police do not want to use the RSPB and the RSPCA anymore which is a positive step towards justice for bird keepers. Rare Birds Seized Torquay 9:20am Monday 10th August 2009 Comments (0) Have your say » Eight rare Goshawks were examined and one seized in an early morning raid near Torquay. Police and animal health inspectors found the protected birds in properties in the Torquay and Kingsbridge areas. Police wildlife crime officers, supported by the National Wildlife Crime Unit and animal health inspectors and vets, swooped on the properties shortly after 7am on Thursday, August 6. Blood samples taken from the birds have been sent away for analysis. Alan Roberts, investigative support officer for the National Wildlife Crime Unit, explained that goshawks are a protected species under the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act. "In the last few weeks there have been a number of rare birds seized in similar circumstances throughout the country," he said. "It is unfortunately and all too common offence. "We hope that this latest recovery will send out a very strong message to anyone considering taking or harming protected birds that specialist officers will investigate and bring offenders before the courts." Mr Roberts also urged anyone with information about wildlife crime to contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111. A 40-year-old man from the Torquay area was arrested as part of the operation and later released on police bail until October 28 pending further enquiries. Please supply all the information that you hold on why the RSPB and the RSPCA were not used on the raid depicted in this newspaper article. A Freedom of Information request to Devon & Cornwall Police Authority by Derek Canning LLB [HONS] Currently waiting for a response from Devon & Cornwall Police Authority, they must respond promptly but no later than 14 September 2009. Derek Canning LLB [HONS] 14 August 2009 Dear Sir or Madam, Please supply all the information that you hold on why the RSPB and the RSPCA were not used on the raid depicted in this newspaper article. Could you also supply any information from any other bodies or individuals that you hold on why the police are not happy to use the RSPB and RSPB on raids anymore given what has occurred in the past especially in relation to PC Hubble of Hampshire Police? It is in the public interest to release this information. Why was Nick Williams brought back given that his job has been taken over by Mr Hunter? Rare Birds Seized Torquay 9:20am Monday 10th August 2009 Comments (0) Have your say » Eight rare Goshawks were examined and one seized in an early morning raid near Torquay. Police and animal health inspectors found the protected birds in properties in the Torquay and Kingsbridge areas. Police wildlife crime officers, supported by the National Wildlife Crime Unit and animal health inspectors and vets, swooped on the properties shortly after 7am on Thursday, August 6. Blood samples taken from the birds have been sent away for analysis. Alan Roberts, investigative support officer for the National Wildlife Crime Unit, explained that goshawks are a protected species under the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act. "In the last few weeks there have been a number of rare birds seized in similar circumstances throughout the country," he said. "It is unfortunately and all too common offence. "We hope that this latest recovery will send out a very strong message to anyone considering taking or harming protected birds that specialist officers will investigate and bring offenders before the courts." Mr Roberts also urged anyone with information about wildlife crime to contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111. A 40-year-old man from the Torquay area was arrested as part of the operation and later released on police bail until October 28 pending further enquiries. Yours faithfully, Derek Canning LLB[hons] http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/plea..._2#comment-4398 Link to this | Send follow up Derek Canning LLB [HONS] 14 August 2009 Dear Sir or Madam, We the people want justice and the truth to be told without any cover up. http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/crimeso... Yours faithfully, Derek Canning LLB [HONS] Link to this | Send follow up DAVID STREET left an annotation (14 August 2009) i all so wont to now why given the fact the posishon i am in iam entitled to know weather or not the rspb are corrupt or not as like i have said in other post evidence has gone and i have other evidence to proof that the rspb and guy shorrok can not be trusted Link to this Things to do with this request Anyone: • Add an annotation (to help the requester or others) Derek Canning LLB [HONS] only: • Send follow up to Devon & Cornwall Police Authority • Update the status of this request • Request an internal review Devon & Cornwall Police Authority only: • Respond to request Link to post
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Don't "address your conviction by various means" do it by the right one APPEAL!!!!!!!! let the courts decide, we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers and liars who overstep the mark at times but you were nailed bang too rights and according to information on other threads you tried to con other bird of prey enthusiasts by stating what you were selling was captive bred?? in my eyes conning ordinary lads is worse and bang out of order!! than nest robbing,which was legal when I was a kid! had my own egg collection and used to rear baby magpies jackdaws etc: Tom Ps: the way it reads if you sold on wild bred birds? the lads you sold them to could have ended up with convictions, did you think of that?? or are you just a greedy, selfish fecker??????/ Link to post
DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Don't "address your conviction by various means" do it by the right one APPEAL!!!!!!!! let the courts decide, we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers and liars who overstep the mark at times but you were nailed bang too rights and according to information on other threads you tried to con other bird of prey enthusiasts by stating what you were selling was captive bred?? in my eyes conning ordinary lads is worse and bang out of order!! than nest robbing,which was legal when I was a kid! had my own egg collection and used to rear baby magpies jackdaws etc: Tom Ps: the way it reads if you sold on wild bred birds? the lads you sold them to could have ended up with convictions, did you think of that?? or are you just a greedy, selfish fecker??????/ In your own words 'we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers who overstep the mark at times' As I stated my conviction was secured by bogus information, lies and corrupt DNA evidence that the RSPB were told not to use. If you had of read my threads you would have been aware of the aforesaid. Link to post
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 No matter how your conviction was obtained "by bogus information, lies and corrupt DNA evidence that the RSPB were told not to use." how!! did they secure it and what's happening with an appeal?. and did you inform the SGA of your conviction when you asked for support on your petition, I got it straight from the horse's mouth you did'nt!! I as a member of the SGA I have asked the members of of the SGA who signed it? to look again at their decision and some of them were really concerned about the fact you did'nt declare you have a conviction for a serious wildlife crime and if they had been aware of that fact? they would'nt have become involved???? Tom Don't "address your conviction by various means" do it by the right one APPEAL!!!!!!!! let the courts decide, we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers and liars who overstep the mark at times but you were nailed bang too rights and according to information on other threads you tried to con other bird of prey enthusiasts by stating what you were selling was captive bred?? in my eyes conning ordinary lads is worse and bang out of order!! than nest robbing,which was legal when I was a kid! had my own egg collection and used to rear baby magpies jackdaws etc: Tom Ps: the way it reads if you sold on wild bred birds? the lads you sold them to could have ended up with convictions, did you think of that?? or are you just a greedy, selfish fecker??????/ In your own words 'we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers who overstep the mark at times' As I stated my conviction was secured by bogus information, lies and corrupt DNA evidence that the RSPB were told not to use. If you had of read my threads you would have been aware of the aforesaid. Link to post
Ratman2 2 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Foxgun Tom, you are a ................................................................................ ................................................................................. ................................................................................. ................................................................................. ................................................................................. .. Top Bloke. Link to post
DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Foxgun Tom, you are a ................................................................................................................................................................ . ................................................................................ . ................................................................................ . ................................................................................ . .. WAKE UP THE RSPB NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED FOR THEIR CRIMES. ONE DAY THIS COULD BE YOU IF THE POLICE ARE ALLOWED TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE RSPB'S ACTIVITIES: The following evidence should be noted in relation to Guy Shorrock under your duty of care. You will note the unacceptable behaviour of Guy Shorrock therefore I would suggest that there should be a police inquiry in to the enclosed evidence and the other evidence that I have supplied before Guy Shorrock is allowed to control evidence again given the duty of care that is owed to members of the public. The evidence supplied is matter of fact in documented form that supports my claim that there must be a police inquiry into the enclosed evidence and the evidence I have supplied in the past Given the evidence that has been supplied you are personally liable for the actions of Guy Shorrock in the future as you have an increased duty of care due to being informed of the evidence against Guy Shorrock. The Complaints Officer Independent Police Complaints Commission 90 High Holborn 26 January 2009 C. R. Marshall PO BOX 1823 ANDOVER HAMPSHIRE SP11 7ZN Please read the enclosed letter that I am still waiting for a positive reply to in relation to investigating Shorrock. Sir William Hague William Hague House of Parliament London Ede House 143 Westoe Road South Shields NE33 3PD Telephone (0191) 456 8910 Home Office Direct Communications Unit 2 Marsham Street London SW1P 4DF Ministry of Justice 102 Petty France London SW1H 9AJ United Kingdom The Complaints Officer Independent Police Complaints Commission 90 High Holborn London WC1V 6BH and the CPS. Please forward to every Police station in the UK Nicola Reasbeck Chief Crown Prosecutor St Ann’s Quay 122 Quayside Newcastle upon Tyne [bANNED TEXT] 3BD DX 61006 Newcastle Upon Tyne Tel: 0191 260 4200 Fax: 0191 260 4240 Hampshire Constabulary Police Headquarters West Hill Romsey Road Winchester Hampshire SO22 5DB 6 January 2009 1] Mark Robb BLUE FALCON - MARK ROBB Contact Details The Stables The Holme Great Broughton TS9 7HF Tel: 01642714418 Mobile: 07951113591 E-mail: gyr@talktalk.net 2] Terry Burden, Kentish Falcon http://www.kentishfalconry.co.uk/ ry & Conservation Centre 2, South Lees Farm Cott's Lower Road Minster-On-Sea Sheerness KENT, UK ME12 3SW 3] David Myatt DAVID LANCE MYATT, 'Two Acres', Catchwater Bank, Revesby, Boston, Lincs, PE22 7NF Telephone number 01790 763414 4] Ken Smith. The Granary, 1 Pinfold Lane, Roos. Hull, East Yorkshire, HU12 0HU. Phone number is 01964 671182 5] DEREK CANNING 24 Priestlands Close Hexham Northumberland NE46 2AW Tel 01434 60 64 64 0780 265 1774 6] Cameron Hannah 38 Fitzwilliam Avenue Sutton Lane End Cheshire SK11 OEJ 7] Chris Marshall [see letters below] Tel. 01264782176 8] Tony Weddell [see letters below] 9] John DODSWORTH 123 Rodin Avenue, Whiteleas, South Shields, Tyne and Wear NE34 8JA 0191 5360850 10] Peter Gurr. 6 Chafford Walk Rainham Essex RM13 9LT Dear Chief Constable Alex Marshall, Reference: My Open letter in relation to further conclusive evidence of Guy Shorrock lying to the police and the need for a criminal inquiry in totality IN RELATION TO THE crimes of Guy Shorrock. 2008/019265. ENQ15778E PLEASE SEE ENCLOSED FURTHER SPECIFIC CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF GUY SHORROCK LYING TO THE POLICE IN A SECRET DOCUMENT WRITTEN BY GUY SHORROCK. This is to FURTHER SUPPORT OF MY COMPLAINTS and OTHERS ABOUT GUY SHORROCK THAT IS MATTER OF FACT AND COGENTLY SUPPORTED BY VARIOUS OTHER PEOPLE’S COMPLAINTS ABOUT GUY SHORROCK. THERE IS A NEED FOR A POLICE ENQUIRY SO THAT SHORROCK CAN BE PROSECUTED FOR NUMEROUS CRIMES AGAINST MANY PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS, WHILE THE POLICE TURNED A BLIND EYE. PLEASE SIT DOWN AND READ THIS SHORT LETTER AND AFTER YOU HAVE READ THE OTHER LETTERS ABOUT GUY SHIORROCK AND NOTE HOW MUCH INJUSTICE THERE IS IN THE UK DUE TO THE MISGUIDED LOYALTIES PEOPLE IN POWER HAVE TOWARDS THE RSPB. JUSTICE SHOULD START AT HOME BEFORE WE ASK THE WORLD TO EMBRACE JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS. WE THE VICTIMS WANT QUESTIONS ASKED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ABOUT WHY SHORROCK IS CONTINUALLY ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH HIS CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES WITHOUT A POLICE INVESTIGATION AND TO ASK THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE TO ASK THE POLICE TO INTERVIEW ALL OF THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT SHORROCK AND TO ASK THE POLICE TO INVISTIGATE SHORROCK’S CRIMES THROUGHOUT THE UK. Note there is a mass of information that has been collected about the crimes of Guy Shorrock over 13 years that the victims from 1 to 10 and others want investigated in the public interests as if we ignore the crimes of Shorrock’s past we are domed to have HIS CRIMES repeated in our future. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. Yours truly from the following, 1] Mark Robb 2] Terry Burden, 3] David Myatt 4] Ken Smith. 5] DEREK CANNING 6] Cameron Hannah 7] Chris Marshall [see letters below] 8] Tony Weddell [see letters below] 9] JOHN DODSWORTH, 10] Peter Gurr. Please clearly note Guy Shorrock’s confidential report dated 23.03.05 to Hampshire Police and my comments in red. Confidential Report to Hampshire Police concerning the execution of a search warrant at Edgeways, Campbell Close, Grateley, Andover, Hants on 19 January 2005 I am Guy Shorrock, a Senior Investigations Officer for the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) based at their headquarters at Sandy in Bedfordshire. I have been employed as an Investigations Officer for over thirteen years, prior to which I was a Police Officer for over seven years with the Greater Manchester Police. The work of the Species Protection Department in which I am based is primarily concerned with gathering evidence of infringements of the legislation that protects wildlife in the United Kingdom, principally in relation to offences involving wild birds. The Department plays an advisory role, assisting the statutory agencies in their investigations, especially through the Police Wildlife Crime Officers' (WCO) network. WHY DID guy Shorrock leave the police force? During the last 21 years, I estimate I have probably been involved with the execution of over 100 search warrants. [ALL THE SEARCH WARRANTS NEED INVESTIGATING] The large majority of these have been during the last 13 years in relation to wildlife offences, many of which have related to egg collecting enquiries. I currently possess probably more experience of egg collecting enquiries than any other person in the UK and have given expert evidence on this area of crime at court on numerous occasions. [PROVE THIS] The RSPB have been instrumental in assisting the statutory agencies to bring many convictions against egg collectors. Consequently, there is often some animosity during search warrants directed towards RSPB staff rather than the police officers actually responsible for executing the warrant. [PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THE RSPB BECAUSE THEY DO NOT TRUST THE RSPB] The RSPB Investigations Section takes considerable care when speaking to the police about search warrants and routinely discusses the following areas: - • Grounds for the warrant • Relevant legislation • Advice on items which should be named as sought • A request for RSPB staff to be specifically named on the warrant. [PROVE IT] Whilst I am not aware of any legislation that specifically states that other persons authorised by the court have to be named on the warrant, the RSPB has always asked this to be done for clarity and in case of objections raised by occupiers. [uNDER THE CODES OF PRACTISE OF THE POLICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE ACT ONLY THE PEOPLE NAMED ON THE SEARCH WARRANT CAN ENTER THE PROPERY COVERED BY THE SEARCH WARRANT. GIVEN SHORROCK’S POLICE PAST AND HIS MANY CLAIMED SEARCH WARRANTS HE MUST KNOW THIS FACT] In addition to assisting the police during warrants with advice on what may be relevant evidence in relation to an investigation the RSPB are also able to ensure that many items of property are not unnecessarily seized. This is of benefit to the occupier. [NAME ONE PERSON THAT WAS GLAD TO SEE SHORROCK HELPING TO RAID THEIR PROPERTY AS SHORROCK ONLY LOOKS FOR HIS OWN GOALS TO PROSECUTE PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING ELSE SEE THE CASE R V BURDEN] From 1996, the RSPB, later assisted by the police and the National Wildlife Crime Intelligence Unit at NC1S, gathered a considerable amount of intelligence information on individuals believed to be travelling abroad to collect birds' eggs. Whilst the taking of these may have been illegal under the legislation of the country concerned, it was no offence to possess these eggs once brought back into the UK. This problem existed because of a failure by the UK government to properly transpose requirements of EU Regulations into UK law. This situation was rectified in July 2004, which meant possession of birds' eggs in the UK, which had been taken illegally in other EU member states, was now an offence. On the basis of this an operation was put together to execute warrants at the homes of three targets, two in Hampshire and a third in Cheshire. [WHY WAS THERE NO EVIDENCE FOUND AT ANY OF THE RAIDS IN RELATION TO BIRDS EGGS IF SHORROCK HAD CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF INTELLIGENCE? COULD IT BE THERE WAS NO INTELLIGENCE?] Following considerable consultation with the police and CPS in both Hampshire and Cheshire, on the 4 January 2005 I sent an e-mail to Hampshire and Cheshire Police (enc). This contained the background information for the warrant application and advice about other issues. The information for the warrant application was fairly lengthy as I wanted to ensure any officer making an application would have all the background information should they be asked questions by the court. . [WHY WAS THERE NO EVIDENCE FOUND AT ANY OF THE RAIDS IN RELATION TO BIRDS EGGS IF SHORROCK HAD A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF INTELLIGENCE? COULD IT BE THERE WAS NO INTELLIGENCE?] At 05.55 hours on Wednesday the 19 January 2005, myself and a colleague attended at Winchester Police station for a briefing. The first part was undertaken by PC Geoff Culbertson and Sgt Louise Hubble, both officers seemed well prepared and organised. [WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?] I then gave some additional guidance to the officers present about what to expect and the type of items sort. As a matter of routine, I asked Sgt Hubble if I could view the warrants. On examination of the two warrants I noted that on the one for the address of Marshall that the RSPB were not specifically named on the warrant, though an identical warrant for the other Hampshire address had the RSPB named. Sgt Hubble stated she had applied for the warrants and had specifically asked the court for authority for RSPB officers to assist with the search warrants and that this had been granted. It seemed clear this was a minor clerical error by the court. [WHY WAS IT CLEAR TO SHORROCK THAT IT WAS JUST A MINOR CLERICAL ERROR? WHY DID SHORROCK CONTINUE ON THE RAID WHEN HE KNEW THAT HE WAS NOT ON THE SEARCH WARRANT? WHY DID THE POLICE ALLOW SHORROCK TO GO ON THE SEARCH WARRANT GIVEN THE FACTS?] There was some discussion as to whether it would be worth contacting a Justice of the Peace in relation to this, but as three simultaneous warrants were planned there was insufficient time for this to be done. In the circumstances, as the officer who had made the application for the warrants was present and could clearly confirm the court had given authority for RSPR to assist, it seemed a reasonable course of action to continue as planned. If it had not been possible to consult with the officer who had taken out the warrant, I would not have entered the premises without the consent of the occupier. [ONLY PEOPLE NAMED ON THE SEARCH WARRANT CAN USE THE SEARCH WARRANT TO ENTER PRIVATE PROPERTY. RULES ARE NOT MADE TO BE BROKEN BY GUY SHORROCK AS IT SUITS HIM] The officers were split into two teams. I was in the team for the address of a Mr Marshall at Edgeways, Campbell Close, Grateley, Andover, Hants. SP11 7DY. Officers on this team were Sgt Hubble, PC 23615 Andrews, PC 2098 Sard, PC 3331 Mills and PC 3435 Chandler. The warrant was executed at approximately 07.30 hours. There was a female at the address who stated she had recently started lodging at the premises and had no contact details for Mr Marshall. The nature of the warrant was outlined to the occupier and I was not aware of any objections raised about my presence. Two officers spoke to her at some length in an upstairs room (I was not present during this) but she was apparently not able to provide any details of Mr Marshall's whereabouts. The loft was searched, I believe only one or two officers may have entered the loft. I was not aware of any damage being caused and heard no reference made by any of the officers to any sort of damage relating to the search of this area. The rear ground floor room was locked and the key appeared to be in the lock from the other side. I assisted with an attempt to dismantle the front of the lock and to try and push the key out onto a piece of newspaper pushed under the door but this was not possible [WHY DID SHORROCK GET INVOLVED IN SMASHING DOWN A DOOR WHEN IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM AND WHEN HE HAD NO RIGHT TO GET INVOLVED IN THE FIRST PLACE?] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEUprzgvKck http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cA_08DhY7iE As Mr Marshall could not be contacted, and no key could be located, this was forced at around 08.35 hours. [YOU MEAN SMASHED OPEN, SEE YOU TUBE!] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEUprzgvKck http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cA_08DhY7iE The room was about four metres square and fairly untidy. There was furniture in the room including a desk, and various items stored on shelves and on the floor. It did not appear to be being used as any sort of living space but more likely as storage and an office area. The officers present started to search this room to the left of the door and proceeded around the room in a methodical fashion. A number of items were brought to my attention and I gave advice on the relevance of items to the enquiry. I gave some assistance with the physical searching of the property, this was mainly confined to looking through items passed to me by the police. This is a normal level of involvement for the warrants I assist with. I was wearing a pair of disposable gloves, this is again standard practice [iS THIS TRUE, AS ALL THE OTHER VIDEOS THAT I HAVE SEEN SHORROCK WAS NOT WEARING GLOVES?] to protect my hands and reduce the chances of contaminating items that may be needed for fingerprint examination. I also helped with putting back some of the items into the areas from where they had been found. The room was generally untidy with a numerous documents on surfaces and in drawers. Whilst it is never possible to put items back in exactly the same position as found, it was abundantly clear to myself the officers were being responsible and making efforts to ensure any items examined were being returned to the same area from where they were found. I did not get the impression that any real disruption was being caused to the contents of the room. In fact, in some areas of the room, the replacing of items appeared to constitute some tidying of the room. [THIS IS NOT WHAT THE VIDEO SHOWS] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEUprzgvKck http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cA_08DhY7iE During the warrant, Mr Marshall arrived, I gather he had been phoned by the female lodger despite her claims of having no contact number. He appeared angry and aggressive. I always consider this is partly to be expected in the circumstances and let the police speak with him to outline the nature of the warrant. As Mr Marshall entered the rear ground floor room he stormed across towards me with his arms raised. I Avoided eye contact and quietly continued what I was doing. A female police officer did aan excellent job of calming Mr Marshall down and his behaviour, though a little erratic at times, was fairly reasonable after this point. He did not ask me to leave or stop what I was doing at any point [confirmed by the police video that has been put on you tube to show Shorrock has lied to the police you will notice on the police video from 9.29 am that Chris Marshall ordered Shorrock off his property as Shorrock was not named on the search warrant. This is matter of fact and clear proof Shorrock is a liar and cannot be trusted by the police, moreover there needs to be a police investigation into all of the complaints made about Shorrock over the years, see you tube for conclusive proof of Shorrock’s lying to the police]. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEUprzgvKck http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cA_08DhY7iE At one point, he asked why the police were seizing a particular item and I outlined that it was based on advice I had given to the police, Mr Marshall seemed satisfied with this explanation. [DID HE SEEM SATISFIED, I SUGGESTED GIVEN THE VIDEO EVIDECE HE WAS NOT SATISFIED] Mr Marshall did complain about the mess being caused, but having been present throughout the search of this room I struggled to understand what 'mess' he was actually referring to. Mr [VIEW THE VIDEO AND YOU WILL SEE WHY CHRIS MARSHALL WAS UPSET AT THE WAY HIS BUSINNES DOCUMENTS WERE BEING MIXED UP] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEUprzgvKck http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cA_08DhY7iE Marshall did ask on two occasions a rather unusual question of why we had not been to the address previously. This tended to suggest he thought a warrant was likely to be executed at some stage. Mr Marshall also denied having another residence claiming to be living in B&B accommodation. I was aware that two vehicles outside were checked but I was not involved in a search of these. Other than the minor damage to the door of the rear ground floor room, I was not aware of any other damage being caused. [‘MINOR DAMAGE’ THIS IS NOT TRUE THE DOOR WAS DISTROYED AND THE FRAME WAS NEARLY KICKED FROM THE WALL, SEE THE POLICE VIDEO FOR PROOF] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEUprzgvKck http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cA_08DhY7iE The warrant concluded at 10.53 hours and I returned to Andover and then Winchester Police Station for a de-briefing and to sort out exhibits. I took away a number of items for further examination. The items seized from Marshall, whilst offering some corroboration with the original intelligence, were not evidence of specific offences and I returned these to Hampshire Police. [THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIMES WHICH WAS WHY THERE WAS NO CHARGES AND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION WAS RETURNED, HOWEVER SOMES PRPOERTY WAS DAMAGED] The items seized from the other two suspects in the enquiry, provide considerable corroboration of the original intelligence. It is my professional opinion that all the intelligence gathered for the search warrants is accurate and that Mr Marshall is likely to hold an illegal egg collection at some location. I believe Mr Marshall probably uses the Edgeways address as a business and mailing address to reduce the chances of his own residence being located. [GIVEN THE FACTS WHAT SHORROCK HAS JUST SAID IS CLEARLY WRONG AND AN OUTRAGUS COMMENT. THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIMES WHICH WAS WHY THERE WAS NO CHARGES AND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION WAS RETURNED, HOWEVER SOMES PRPOERTY WAS DAMAGED] Mr Marshall is also heavily involved with a group called the Jourdain Society, and I believe he is the current chairman. The members of this group are specifically interested in the nests, eggs and breeding behaviour of wild birds. It is no secret that several current and former members of this society are convicted egg collectors and several, including the other two individuals subject of this enquiry, are suspected to be involved in the illegal taking of eggs. In 1993, the RSPB instigated and assisted the Wiltshire Police with an investigation into the Society, which led to the conviction of six individuals. Understandably, the RSPB is not popular with this group. [WHAT HAS THE AFORESAID GOT TO DO WITH TARGETING CHRIS MARSHALL AND THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE?] Having assisted the police with a large number of search warrants I considered all the officers to have behaved professionally and that their conduct and behaviour was exemplary throughout. After the conclusion of the warrant, I did in fact mention to Sgt Hubble that I had been impressed with the enthusiasm and efforts of all the officers present and asked if she would pass on the thanks of the RSPB [WELL SHORROCK WOULD SAY THAT THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE SEARCH WARRANT WAS A DISGRACE AND CRIMINALLY WRONG]. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. Guy Shorrock Senior Investigations Officer 23.03.05 Top Bloke. Link to post
DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 http://www.falconcrimes.co.uk/ Link to post
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) I'm really wonderimg if Canning is your real surname or is it Cunning or Coniving?? You ask some well meaning and gullible people/organisations to support you, without telling them of your conviction? You also ask and expect a lot of questions to be answered by others? and yet refuse to answer points or questions put to you directly!! see below: You got caught and this is the only way you can deal with It? also appears you have your own agenda? this is "feck all" to do with safeguarding the rest of us from the animal welfare charities?? its about a someone who on the face of it appears as a phsycotic and paranoid also dare I say it? an extremely obsessive individual who won't appeal his conviction? because he was caught, banged to rights and you know, an appeal won't succeed?, Guy's wrongly convicted of murder get appeals resolved quicker than you!! While I personally have no time for the RSPCA or RSPB I have even less for liars and people who try too or sell illegaly obtained birds to honest men and women who were unaware of the truth or situation, In my opinion your no better than the worse puppy pedlar and should have been kicked of the best hunting forum on the internet months ago!! I don't understand why the mods allow such a waste of valuble webspace?? Tom No matter how your conviction was obtained "by bogus information, lies and corrupt DNA evidence that the RSPB were told not to use." how!! did they secure it and what's happening with an appeal?. and did you inform the SGA of your conviction when you asked for support on your petition, I got it straight from the horse's mouth you did'nt!! I as a member of the SGA I have asked the members of of the SGA who signed it? to look again at their decision and some of them were really concerned about the fact you did'nt declare you have a conviction for a serious wildlife crime and if they had been aware of that fact? they would'nt have become involved???? Tom Don't "address your conviction by various means" do it by the right one APPEAL!!!!!!!! let the courts decide, we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers and liars who overstep the mark at times but you were nailed bang too rights and according to information on other threads you tried to con other bird of prey enthusiasts by stating what you were selling was captive bred?? in my eyes conning ordinary lads is worse and bang out of order!! than nest robbing,which was legal when I was a kid! had my own egg collection and used to rear baby magpies jackdaws etc: Tom Ps: the way it reads if you sold on wild bred birds? the lads you sold them to could have ended up with convictions, did you think of that?? or are you just a greedy, selfish fecker??????/ In your own words 'we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers who overstep the mark at times' As I stated my conviction was secured by bogus information, lies and corrupt DNA evidence that the RSPB were told not to use. If you had of read my threads you would have been aware of the aforesaid. Edited August 17, 2009 by Foxgun Tom Link to post
DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I'm really wonderimg if Canning is your real surname or is it Cunning or Coniving?? You ask some well meaning and gullible people/organisations to support you, without telling them of your conviction? You also ask and expect a lot of questions to be answered by others? and yet refuse to answer points or questions put to you directly!! see below: You got caught and this is the only way you can deal with It? also appears you have your own agenda? this is "feck all" to do with safeguarding the rest of us from the animal welfare charities?? its about a someone who on the face of it appears as a phsycotic and paranoid also dare I say it? an extremely obsessive individual who won't appeal his conviction? because he was caught, banged to rights and you know, an appeal won't succeed?, Guy's wrongly convicted of murder get appeals resolved quicker than you!! While I personally have no time for the RSPCA or RSPB I have even less for liars and people who try too or sell illegaly obtained birds to honest men and women who were unaware of the truth or situation, In my opinion your no better than the worse puppy pedlar and should have been kicked of the best hunting forum on the internet months ago!! I don't understand why the mods allow such a waste of valuble webspace?? Tom No matter how your conviction was obtained "by bogus information, lies and corrupt DNA evidence that the RSPB were told not to use." how!! did they secure it and what's happening with an appeal?. and did you inform the SGA of your conviction when you asked for support on your petition, I got it straight from the horse's mouth you did'nt!! I as a member of the SGA I have asked the members of of the SGA who signed it? to look again at their decision and some of them were really concerned about the fact you did'nt declare you have a conviction for a serious wildlife crime and if they had been aware of that fact? they would'nt have become involved???? Tom Don't "address your conviction by various means" do it by the right one APPEAL!!!!!!!! let the courts decide, we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers and liars who overstep the mark at times but you were nailed bang too rights and according to information on other threads you tried to con other bird of prey enthusiasts by stating what you were selling was captive bred?? in my eyes conning ordinary lads is worse and bang out of order!! than nest robbing,which was legal when I was a kid! had my own egg collection and used to rear baby magpies jackdaws etc: Tom Ps: the way it reads if you sold on wild bred birds? the lads you sold them to could have ended up with convictions, did you think of that?? or are you just a greedy, selfish fecker??????/ In your own words 'we know the RSPCA/RSPB are tossers who overstep the mark at times' As I stated my conviction was secured by bogus information, lies and corrupt DNA evidence that the RSPB were told not to use. If you had of read my threads you would have been aware of the aforesaid. Unless you can look into the future you do not know what will occur in my appeal however it does show that you have a hidden agenda by your sweeping statement based on nothing tangible. As for asking for support do you mean signing a petition to investigate the corruption of the RSPB? If it is then what is wrong with investigating the corruption of the RSPB? I think you are RSPB at heart really. Link to post
Ratman2 2 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I'm really wonderimg if Canning is your real surname or is it Cunning or Coniving?? You ask some well meaning and gullible people/organisations to support you, without telling them of your conviction? You also ask and expect a lot of questions to be answered by others? and yet refuse to answer points or questions put to you directly!! see below: You got caught and this is the only way you can deal with It? also appears you have your own agenda? this is "feck all" to do with safeguarding the rest of us from the animal welfare charities?? its about a someone who on the face of it appears as a phsycotic and paranoid also dare I say it? an extremely obsessive individual who won't appeal his conviction? because he was caught, banged to rights and you know, an appeal won't succeed?, Guy's wrongly convicted of murder get appeals resolved quicker than you!! While I personally have no time for the RSPCA or RSPB I have even less for liars and people who try too or sell illegaly obtained birds to honest men and women who were unaware of the truth or situation, In my opinion your no better than the worse puppy pedlar and should have been kicked of the best hunting forum on the internet months ago!! I don't understand why the mods allow such a waste of valuble webspace?? Tom Foxgun Tom, you make some very valid points here. The above highlighted text I wholy aggree with. #1 It concerns me that newbies to this site and other like wise sites may be drawn into Mr Cannings one man crusade against any authority. #2 Mr Canning, why do you never directly answer a question?? #3 Mr Canning, do you actually care about animal welfare? #4 As I've said before Mr Canning, you were a bad lad and got nicked, deal with it. #5 Mr Canning, why have you not appealed against your conviction?? So!! DEREC CANNING LLB (HONS) could you answer this without endless copy and paste, let's hear it as it is. Link to post
DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 The Watchdog programme and Sweetman ________________________________________ Watchdog programme setting sweetman up by the DofE file 1 file 2 file 3 WAKE UP Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I have read enough of this b**llocks to last me a lifetime..........Put another record on Mr Canning (who ever you are) and start making some contribution to the site rather than conducting some personal vendetta against whoever has pissed on your parade. This post will be deleted after you have had time to read this post.............ffs......Yawn fkin Yawn. Rolfe. Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Why wait, delete it now, yawn! Link to post
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