National CountrySports Fair, Ballinlough Castle, Clonmellon

[true countryman 0]

 

Champion (dog on right of pic) and reserve champion (thanks to Bluebell for the pic)

 

Your very welcome Janet

not havin a pop at you janet but that eejit that won reserve terrier is nothin but a dog dealer and his dogs wood never be to ground on there own always with company even do he looks like a knacker he is just a want to be knacker

 

 

And how the hell would the judge know that? or even care about it as it was dogs were judged not people

i agree but how dose she know winner was a worker if she seen him work fair enough but wouldent that be bieest

What would you propose or how would you do if differently. I think Ballinlough judging was fair and at least they try to minimise the crufts type judging.

firstly dogs and bitches seperate judge should be a digging person or retired should have the experiance of show dogs and workers because they can be both all the judge should be from ireland if dogs come in wrong class put them out if a dog shows aggrision put it out too judge person collecting money shouldnt have say this is my opinion not a slur on anyone

 

 

This is a fair description of our judges for Birr this year.

 

Albert

dont be hijacking this tread albert to promote birr everybody knows shamus influence the judge now piss off

I thought that too madra, only hijacking this thread as his own is not getting the hits!

[Guest THE TRUTH]

Just a wee question madra, how many shows have you ever run yourself? or how many times have you ever judged? or do you just spend your time complaining and making comments on judges and organisers. its only supposed to be a bit of sport in the summer, god man to hear you you'd think it was crufts!!! a lot of boys spend a lot o time getting ready and running these shows, give them a bit of credit.look back at this whole thread your the only moaner and youve had a go at the judge, the boys that run it, what is your real problem, too much time on yer hands. lighten up a bit, a man with your obvious experience should be helping, not moaning ;)

right i told u the wife calls me victor mildrew as im always given my opinion the show overall was well run especailly the lucher even pictures now i am offering to judge terrier next year i will put my head on the block because i didnt mean to slag janet off i have judge show before iv been to many shows all over england plus i am a diggingman plus i was involed in running the best working dog show in ireland a few years ago now i support most of the show i can i wont support birr anymore won it one time the reason been they dont support working terriers or lurchers my opinion

so there ya go cant be any fairier than that

Involved in running the best show in Ireland , didnt ye split the money and spend a few days on the beer in TRAMORE ,people in glasshouses and all that , Digging man ???? another waster that expects others to do the digging ,i see you have been digging 15 years , how long have you had terriers ? .you definately wouldnt be considered a digging man in your area only a blowhole GET REAL

[Guest madra rua]

Just a wee question madra, how many shows have you ever run yourself? or how many times have you ever judged? or do you just spend your time complaining and making comments on judges and organisers. its only supposed to be a bit of sport in the summer, god man to hear you you'd think it was crufts!!! a lot of boys spend a lot o time getting ready and running these shows, give them a bit of credit.look back at this whole thread your the only moaner and youve had a go at the judge, the boys that run it, what is your real problem, too much time on yer hands. lighten up a bit, a man with your obvious experience should be helping, not moaning ;)

right i told u the wife calls me victor mildrew as im always given my opinion the show overall was well run especailly the lucher even pictures now i am offering to judge terrier next year i will put my head on the block because i didnt mean to slag janet off i have judge show before iv been to many shows all over england plus i am a diggingman plus i was involed in running the best working dog show in ireland a few years ago now i support most of the show i can i wont support birr anymore won it one time the reason been they dont support working terriers or lurchers my opinion

so there ya go cant be any fairier than that

Involved in running the best show in Ireland , didnt ye split the money and spend a few days on the beer in TRAMORE ,people in glasshouses and all that , Digging man ???? another waster that expects others to do the digging ,i see you have been digging 15 years , how long have you had terriers ? .you definately wouldnt be considered a digging man in your area only a blowhole GET REAL

Edited July 27, 2009 by madra rua

[AlbertJ 569]

 

Champion (dog on right of pic) and reserve champion (thanks to Bluebell for the pic)

 

Your very welcome Janet

not havin a pop at you janet but that eejit that won reserve terrier is nothin but a dog dealer and his dogs wood never be to ground on there own always with company even do he looks like a knacker he is just a want to be knacker

 

 

And how the hell would the judge know that? or even care about it as it was dogs were judged not people

i agree but how dose she know winner was a worker if she seen him work fair enough but wouldent that be bieest

What would you propose or how would you do if differently. I think Ballinlough judging was fair and at least they try to minimise the crufts type judging.

firstly dogs and bitches seperate judge should be a digging person or retired should have the experiance of show dogs and workers because they can be both all the judge should be from ireland if dogs come in wrong class put them out if a dog shows aggrision put it out too judge person collecting money shouldnt have say this is my opinion not a slur on anyone

 

 

This is a fair description of our judges for Birr this year.

 

Albert

dont be hijacking this tread albert to promote birr everybody knows shamus influence the judge now piss off

 

Sorry I haven't had time to reply to you. Do you not understand a forum is for everyone to put an opinion so long as it is decent, honest and not like your comment inaccurate and defamatory?

 

Seamus has done more than anyone to popoularise Terrier & Lurcher showing and racing in Ireland. Like him or not he has won more of the main UK shows than virtually anyone in Ireland and certainly killed more foxes than anyone.

 

Your comments are insulting to both Seamus and the judges such as Gary Hosker, Gary Middleton and friends of mine such as Tommy Agnew who I stewarded for at two All Ireland's > Tommy is an international Champonship Judge who did the best job of judging lurchers that I have seen. I judge gundogs at Championship level and would not tolerate any "fixed" judging at our shows.

 

I have dealt with allegations/ criticisms such as this at Birr as I do with all matters "head ON". Firstly on the prizes :

 

Top Terrier gets €50 Top Lurcher gets €50 and the overall Champion gets €100 and a specially engraved Champion's tankard. All class winners get trophies and a year's subscription to Irish Countrysports and Country Life magazine which will in future be carrying more Terrier & Lurcher news. The new editor keeps both terriers & lurchers. There will be other supporting prizes.

 

AND I have repeated the offer of two day tickets for the price of one for terrier & lurcher enthusiasts. If taken up before the 13th August.

 

AND as I have said both judges have an exceptional track record of working & showing their dogs over a long period of time. Seamus will not be stewarding.

 

It would appear that unlike Seamus you do not have a track record to be proud of either working or showing your dogs and prefer to criticise and defame others from the sidelines under an alias.

 

The fact that Seamus runs the two largest shows in Ireland is a very eloquent testimony to the fact that your very biased opinion is not shared by the majority of terrier & lurcher competitors.

 

As for me, I don't take lessons in free speech from people who hide behind aliases.

 

AlbertJ

[Hunter of T-N-G 1]

the black dog is mine my computer is down tats why tat post above is from my mates computer .check my profile for those tat dont belive hes a working dog i wouldn keep him if he wasn .

 

macster

 

Your f*****g right lad. Heard there was a few slabbering about the Macster. f**k them all. Probably dug more foxes last year than some have seen in an lifetime.