steven price 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 hi guys, forgive me if this is a stupid question, a few days ago i had a call from the feo about my variation application, while on the phone i asked about the two permissions i sent off with it. was told that both had been approved, only when i got my licence back it had nothing written on it. is this right? regards steve. Quote Link to post
mj robson 8 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 They may have given you an open ticket?? Quote Link to post
steven price 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 They may have given you an open ticket?? hi mate, its my first licence so i doubt they would give me a open ticket. regards steve. Quote Link to post
the Verminator 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 i also got nothing with mine, i think all the aproved land info is stored on the computers Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Probably says. "Is allowed to shoot on land approved by the chief constable" Rather than naming specific land Quote Link to post
steven price 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Probably says. "Is allowed to shoot on land approved by the chief constable" Rather than naming specific land thats what it does say but you think they would put some kind of approved stamp on your permission slip to avoid any confusion. Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 It's so they dont have to change your cert wording every time you apply for a new permission. Which, although you have a closed certificate, you are allowed to have as many "approved " permissions as you like. In fact the more you have, the better it is, and the more likely they are to give you an open ticket. Because they will become fed up looking at the bits of land you have. Quote Link to post
steven price 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 i hope so, would be nice to have some kind of proof that your all legal in case you ever get i visit from the old bill while out in the field. regards steve Quote Link to post
topgun1 10 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 i hope so, would be nice to have some kind of proof that your all legal in case you ever get i visit from the old bill while out in the field. regards steve why not do as a lot of us do and carry copies of your permissions in car or gun bag etc.it saves a lot of hastle as farmers dont like being woken up by a coppers knock on door or phone call late at night Quote Link to post
steven price 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 i hope so, would be nice to have some kind of proof that your all legal in case you ever get i visit from the old bill while out in the field. regards steve why not do as a lot of us do and carry copies of your permissions in car or gun bag etc.it saves a lot of hastle as farmers dont like being woken up by a coppers knock on door or phone call late at night hi topgun, i always have my permission slips with me but what am saying is that a holder of a closed ticket has no evidence (from the police) that he has permission to shoot a firearm on that land. regards steve Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 i hope so, would be nice to have some kind of proof that your all legal in case you ever get i visit from the old bill while out in the field. regards steve why not do as a lot of us do and carry copies of your permissions in car or gun bag etc.it saves a lot of hastle as farmers dont like being woken up by a coppers knock on door or phone call late at night hi topgun, i always have my permission slips with me but what am saying is that a holder of a closed ticket has no evidence (from the police) that he has permission to shoot a firearm on that land. regards steve You're not understanding the closed ticket It is very rare to see individual pieces of land listed on the ticket. You are NOT getting permission from the police to shoot on a given piece of land, you are finding out whether the land has been cleared for the class of firearm you wish to use. It's a very subtle difference, but it is a difference nevertheless. If an FEO has previously cleared a piece of land, or it has been cleared by someone many moons ago, they don't do it again - they just tell you it's cleared. Should you be found shooting on a piece of land you've not asked about, it is POSSIBLE that you've done nothing wrong - if that land is cleared already, there's no issue. HOWEVER, out of courtesy, a new piece of land on a closed ticket requires a phone call to check if it's cleared. Equally, consider this scenario - two mates both get .22RFs at the same time, for different pieces of land, on closed tickets. They both know their land is cleared as the FEO has JUST done it, but neither has asked the FEO about shooting with their mate, on their mate's land. One then says to the other, "Fancy some shooting over on my permission tonight?" The other guy is fine to accept and take his .22RF with him. It is perfectly fine for those guys to shoot on each other's land - they both KNOW it's been cleared as it was done recently for them directly - there is no confusion, no hearsay, no Chinese whispers. Quote Link to post
steven price 0 Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 thanks for clearing that up for me. regards steve. Quote Link to post
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