american bulldog

[rabbit tourmentor 29]

thanks for that

[Pops 19]

me1

i did a lot of stupid stuff as a kid including being a bit test dummy for my brother's GSDs. the reason i got tagged most by curs & hounds is because of the circumstances. i went on my first hog hunt nearly 31 years ago. when you run too many soft curs or hounds it's easy to get tagged when you go to leg a caught hog. one of the bulldogs was the same circumstances. never had a game bulldog hit me & been around a few dozen of them in my youth as well.

only had two full on unprotected attacks. one was the curXbulldog that took a sow black bear off her feet. he flipped out from what turned out to be a brain tumor. he left the square shaped scar on my right hand where he locked down. no fractures, but severe tearing from the shake and not just the hand, but in the muscles & other soft tissue of the arm. the shoulder joint is still a bit soft after several years.

in contrast my in laws GSD fractured the metacarpal below my right thumb & the radius. however even w/ a full body shake the GSD didn't cause any significant muscle or soft tissue injury.

in the protected bites w/ my brother's GSDs i could seriously feel the bites but they couldn't provide enough force in the shake for me not to be able to control them.

 

doga

i don't have a ton of experience, but within what i have, i stand firm. the sheperd dogs BITE harder but the bulldogs hit harder.

 

now within what limited testing has been done the wedge headed dogs like GSDs, Mals & Ozzie heelers, when compared against square headed dogs of the same weight, have consistantly produced higher bite pressures. OTH i've yet to see a GSD or Mal w/ the hang time of a good bulldog. they might grab and hold for a minute but a good bulldog can hang for hours (although mostly exaggerating for effect here i have seen bulldogs on a tug pole hang for over an hour).

[bird 9,969]

First off, Hyenas aint even dogs!...lol...secondly, if you go on YouTube, and type in 'Dog attack styles' you will see some comparisons...the Mastiff has the strongest on that test at over 500lbs+ pressure...

 

IMO, PitBulls dont have that much bite pressure, but then again, they where not bred to have super strong bites,...im not saying they DONT bite hard, obviously they DO!...lol...but that is not the first criteria in the breeding of such animals..

 

Kye..

 

 

Spot on, yes seen it. The mastiff had the strongest bite, but the DS had everything [agilty,power, tenacty] hell of a dog. Put one of them to a grey, what a feckin dog you would have, 1 or-2x more to offer than ABD.

[doga 50]

it would be nice to know how many talk through exsperience and not through the internet ,i know theres is going to be biased opinions its only natural but real life exsperience is what im talking through and a lot of educated men and women,belgium german sheperds even collies ive seen in protection rottie dobermans mastiff of alot of types pits and large staffs have been tried.try a dog out properly now im a big chav but i can sort out sheperds and the much better types of old not todays stuff thats popular,had a harder time with mastivs through sheer power and most inportantly wait dobermans are to in and out and dont take well to punishment niether do sheperds this is my first hand exsperience.pits honestly do have a real good bite dont forget the dog used in these tests is just one dog of that breed it cant speak for all,now bulldogs of the perfomance type do a good job they soak up punishment they have a good allround athletisisum good size and wait goog bite for me they produce better bolder pupies than other breeds but for me they have to be performance bred not sloppy heavily jowled dogs that hold to much bulk they for me are not as durable as the smaller more athletic buul dog the original type.

[bird 9,969]

it would be nice to know how many talk through exsperience and not through the internet ,i know theres is going to be biased opinions its only natural but real life exsperience is what im talking through and a lot of educated men and women,belgium german sheperds even collies ive seen in protection rottie dobermans mastiff of alot of types pits and large staffs have been tried.try a dog out properly now im a big chav but i can sort out sheperds and the much better types of old not todays stuff thats popular,had a harder time with mastivs through sheer power and most inportantly wait dobermans are to in and out and dont take well to punishment niether do sheperds this is my first hand exsperience.pits honestly do have a real good bite dont forget the dog used in these tests is just one dog of that breed it cant speak for all,now bulldogs of the perfomance type do a good job they soak up punishment they have a good allround athletisisum good size and wait goog bite for me they produce better bolder pupies than other breeds but for me they have to be performance bred not sloppy heavily jowled dogs that hold to much bulk they for me are not as durable as the smaller more athletic buul dog the original type.

 

As you say, its like most breeds there is good+bad in any breed. Its use'n the right type to start with,and some do look more pit , than ABD.??

[brummy-bull-man 1]

hyena doesnt come from the dog family .. what the f**k are you on bruv do ya research instead of just typing what u have read off the internet and watching you tube video's king..

 

also i do a lot of protection i.e sleeve work etc i have a few big hard hitters in my yard that would like a test dummy for to see if a shepard bite harder than these

 

all the best bull

[BULL 97]

First off, Hyenas aint even dogs!...lol...secondly, if you go on YouTube, and type in 'Dog attack styles' you will see some comparisons...the Mastiff has the strongest on that test at over 500lbs+ pressure...

 

IMO, PitBulls dont have that much bite pressure, but then again, they where not bred to have super strong bites,...im not saying they DONT bite hard, obviously they DO!...lol...but that is not the first criteria in the breeding of such animals..

 

Kye..

i read in a pit mag years ago that they bit with 2500 ilbs per square inch of pressure and a rottie was second with 500-600. that was in the early 90,s in a monthly pitbull mag

[Little Butch 16]

Finding out the bite force of a Dog or any other animal for that matter accurately Is a neigh on Impossible task..

Butch

[brummy-bull-man 1]

thats the type i keep scotsman bang on mate

[DRP 3]

Bite force is predominantly dependant on head and muzzle size/shape, obviously, the more room there is for the jaw muscles to attached themselves, the stronger the jaws. Again, basic physics, a shorter broader muzzle will produce a harder bite than a longer thinner muzzle. Therefore molloser breeds will bite harder than shepherds and dobermanns.

 

That is the physical side covered.

 

Temperament also plays a part ie emotional state at point of bite. If you have an AB and a GSD both with equal amount of defense, prey or fight drive (which ever drive you are working with at the time) with the same amount of frustration or anger or whatever at the time of the bite, the AB will produce the stronger bite of the two.

 

Therefore, if a GSD is woundup to the point of explosion, it can produce a harder bite than an AB that bites when it hasn't been as hyped up (this is just an example to clarify my point).

 

 

 

Hyenas ARE NOT CANINES, they belong to the same Order, which is Carnivora, as do Ursids, Felids and Mustelids but they ARE NOT dogs!!!