Guest alan fox Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hi everyone a friend of mine shoots a tikka 3 in 223 and is having problems and asked if i could air the problem on the forum as i told him i felt sure someone could help him.He as had his rifle screw cut for a moderator it is a heavy barrelled varminter im told,it shoots fine without a mod on giving 1"groups at 100yds but with a mod only 3"groupings are possible,hes tried it clean and unclean,different ammo ,at the moment he shoots sako ammo,hes tried jet and reflex mods and he assures me that the mod is sitting true on the barrel and the mod shows no signs of the bullets catching the sides of it when fired.with all other ammo they shoot fine till mod is attached,hope someone can help,many thanks Quote Link to post
Guest baldie Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 There is probarbly a fault with the screwcutting, has it been recrowned properly?Group size will alter position, but should not get bigger with a mod on. If he has tried 2 different moderators, it has to be the threading job, or crown. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 If you get it to a good rifle smith, he will sort it out. Id say Baldie is not far off, but a good rifle smith will know when he looks at it. Frank. Quote Link to post
Guest Macnas Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'll be very interested in what the gunsmith has to say, as the T3 Varmint I've been banging on about is a definate candidate for a sound moderator. Quote Link to post
dead ive 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 (edited) Hi everyone a friend of mine shoots a tikka 3 in 223 and is having problems and asked if i could air the problem on the forum as i told him i felt sure someone could help him.He as had his rifle screw cut for a moderator it is a heavy barrelled varminter im told,it shoots fine without a mod on giving 1"groups at 100yds but with a mod only 3"groupings are possible,hes tried it clean and unclean,different ammo ,at the moment he shoots sako ammo,hes tried jet and reflex mods and he assures me that the mod is sitting true on the barrel and the mod shows no signs of the bullets catching the sides of it when fired.with all other ammo they shoot fine till mod is attached,hope someone can help,many thanks Am I correct in assuming one of these mods is a T4/8 ............If i am correct then I went through exactly the same thing when a T8 was fitted to my .223 m595 and i can say it's very demoralising after spending nearly £300 . I cured it by doing the following ...... The extra weight caused the floating barrel to touch the stock ,you might think it's still free floating with the mod fitted but once fired the harmonics can cause the barrel to hit the stock creating stock hammer ............for shooting off a bi-pod it's surprising how much material has to be removed to alleviate this ,I have 1/8" clearence(Yes it is OTT) ...........although at the time I was'nt aware of how lubricating the baffles of a T8 can cause eratic grouping on the first couple of shots as well . A DIY way of repairing a crown is using a marble and some abrasive paste or fine grade paper Edited July 21, 2006 by dead ive Quote Link to post
Guest baldie Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 If you get it to a good rifle smith, he will sort it out. Id say Baldie is not far off, but a good rifle smith will know when he looks at it. Frank. You cheeky bugger, i am a riflesmith Dead ive has probarbly hit the nail on the head, i should have read the post properly and realised it was a big mod. Easy test, grasp the rifle by the pistol grip, and with your other hand, slap the underside of the stock, if it needs floating, you will feel the wood knock against the action. Quote Link to post
dead ive 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 If you get it to a good rifle smith, he will sort it out. Id say Baldie is not far off, but a good rifle smith will know when he looks at it. Frank. You cheeky bugger, i am a riflesmith Dead ive has probarbly hit the nail on the head, i should have read the post properly and realised it was a big mod. Easy test, grasp the rifle by the pistol grip, and with your other hand, slap the underside of the stock, if it needs floating, you will feel the wood knock against the action. ..........What you trying to say frank :whistle: ...........Yep that's a good way to find out baldie Makes you wander how the SMLE (short mag lee enfield ) was renown for accuracy and still is even though it had a barrel band clamping it to a wooden stock Quote Link to post
Deako 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 The answer to the SMLE is the clamp mate!! Quote Link to post
dead ive 0 Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 The answer to the SMLE is the clamp mate!! I think you may be right deako Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 If you get it to a good rifle smith, he will sort it out. Id say Baldie is not far off, but a good rifle smith will know when he looks at it. Frank. You cheeky bugger, i am a riflesmith Dead ive has probarbly hit the nail on the head, i should have read the post properly and realised it was a big mod. Easy test, grasp the rifle by the pistol grip, and with your other hand, slap the underside of the stock, if it needs floating, you will feel the wood knock against the action. ..........What you trying to say frank :whistle: ...........Yep that's a good way to find out baldie Makes you wander how the SMLE (short mag lee enfield ) was renown for accuracy and still is even though it had a barrel band clamping it to a wooden stock O, sorry Baldie , it was early in the morning and me head was spining. Im sure between you and Ive, you will have it sorted. Frank. Quote Link to post
dead ive 0 Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 alan fox Ask the question and then disappear when folk take time to answer Quote Link to post
cramp 4 Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 (edited) my mate has the same problem with his t3 we have been trying for the last week to get it to group we was going to try new scopes on it today but we will check the crowning instead Edited July 24, 2006 by cramp Quote Link to post
Guest alan fox Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 my mate has the same problem with his t3 we have been trying for the last week to get it to group we was going to try new scopes on it today but we will check the crowning instead hiya all im sorry it was very rude of me to ask a question on the forum and not stay to read your very helpful replies,ive been away on holiday and since getting back iv been busy with no time to sit at the computor till now,in future il try to view any replies without delay.many thanks again for your very helpful replies.HAPPY HUNTING!!! Quote Link to post
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