old school locating

[sawtooth 0]

I was wondering how you locate where to dig down to your dog without the use of an electronic locator, if there is a way?

[Waz 4,252]

I/we use a hex solid steel bar of about 5 foot in length, spike on one end and flattened at the other.

 

If its a small place your bound to here the dog with the game from an entrance, after that bar down a few inches on where you think the dog maybe and put your ear hard onto the flattened end. Then tell everyone to shut up and stop walking about.

 

If you hear nothing, just keep moving about. till you get something. When you do move away half a meter in all directions until you can say your nearer,. The deeper the earths, the deeper you need to bar down.

 

You will hear the dog digging on, the game digging on, you will hear mute dogs breathing.

 

 

The other method I/we use is ear to the floor, but the bar is superior in a lot of ways, for a start you havnt got to go crawling round everywhere and youll find the dog quicker with the bar.

 

Better if you are armed with 2 bars and can spread out. Deepest we've found a dog is 6 metres (dense place pickaxe all the way). The deepest depth of earths we will dig again got to 3 or 4 metres maximum and no problems finding the dog.

[Guest busterdog]

That just about sums it up, well said waz ahhhh the bad old days. I also use the shovel, kick in as far as you can and listen to the handle, the handles being hollow the sound travels well.

[sawtooth 0]

thats great info, Thanks. Most of the dens around here are dug into hillsides. Any info for this. Digging down to most of these would require 10 + feet. Would it be best to tunnel down the shaft?

[DIDO.1 22,637]

thats great info, Thanks. Most of the dens around here are dug into hillsides. Any info for this. Digging down to most of these would require 10 + feet. Would it be best to tunnel down the shaft?

 

It would be best to buy a locator and be careful where you enter your dog!

[Waz 4,252]

That just about sums it up, well said waz ahhhh the bad old days. I also use the shovel, kick in as far as you can and listen to the handle, the handles being hollow the sound travels well.

 

I will give the shovel a try next Saturday.

 

Sawtooth, Id dig down, not tunnel. If the hill is 45 degree then 10 foot down is 10 foot in,,, thats 2 of your body lengths (if your a midget LOL)to get to the terrier then a dog length, youve got to tunnel and clear all of that then get the dog and the game. Only bad thing about digging down on a hill is trying to throw the spoil uphill so you got something to backfill with.

[Waz 4,252]

thats great info, Thanks. Most of the dens around here are dug into hillsides. Any info for this. Digging down to most of these would require 10 + feet. Would it be best to tunnel down the shaft?

 

It would be best to buy a locator and be careful where you enter your dog!

 

My dogs always got a locater collar on, but prefer to find this way in the first instance, I think you learn a lot more about a terrier than just switching on a box. Personal opinion.

[sawtooth 0]

where could I find a locator in the US? And what kind should I get? I've never seen or heard of them, not many terriermen where I'm from. Thanks for the info, Sheldon

[Bigshrimp 5]

where could I find a locator in the US? And what kind should I get? I've never seen or heard of them, not many terriermen where I'm from. Thanks for the info, Sheldon

JRTCA (Jack Russel Terrier Club of America) store

[Guest rodsmith]

thats great info, Thanks. Most of the dens around here are dug into hillsides. Any info for this. Digging down to most of these would require 10 + feet. Would it be best to tunnel down the shaft?

 

It would be best to buy a locator and be careful where you enter your dog!

 

My dogs always got a locater collar on, but prefer to find this way in the first instance, I think you learn a lot more about a terrier than just switching on a box. Personal opinion.

 

 

better "WARN" the younger lads not to do this without having a locator on or thy will all be out getting their terriers lost to ground.

[Waz 4,252]

Rod,,,,, I would of thought it to be common sense, no? Besides im only a young man meself

[scent 509]

whatever you do dont do what half the dopes down my way do ,dig ten bloody holes looking for the terrier and forget to fill em back in

[Shamo 319]

In days gone a mute dog was culled out and considered next to useless. A few guys I have spoken to were in Clubs and IF they had a mute dog a little baying Bitch was put in to locate the first dog. Dogs were used more than Bitches to locate and get to grips, by these guys anyway. There was a LOT of 'doubling up' in the 'good ole days'....lol. On windy, wet days trying to locate a bayer can be time consuming, they had to be 'stayers', but now with locators they only have to stay less than half the time they would of before. When I first started guys still didn't use locators too often, it was Bar and Ear job and the dogs HAD to stay, sometimes taking hours to locate the Dogs. Then you had to dig to them, Barring and listening all the time. A morning was the norm to be at a dig, now guys are fitting in two or three. As Locators get better and better the job will get quicker and quicker and the Terriers will get worse and worse.......in my opinion.

[Guest rodsmith]

In days gone a mute dog was culled out and considered next to useless. A few guys I have spoken to were in Clubs and IF they had a mute dog a little baying Bitch was put in to locate the first dog. Dogs were used more than Bitches to locate and get to grips, by these guys anyway. There was a LOT of 'doubling up' in the 'good ole days'....lol. On windy, wet days trying to locate a bayer can be time consuming, they had to be 'stayers', but now with locators they only have to stay less than half the time they would of before. When I first started guys still didn't use locators too often, it was Bar and Ear job and the dogs HAD to stay, sometimes taking hours to locate the Dogs. Then you had to dig to them, Barring and listening all the time. A morning was the norm to be at a dig, now guys are fitting in two or three. As Locators get better and better the job will get quicker and quicker and the Terriers will get worse and worse.......in my opinion.

 

 

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[Cajunrules 8]

I/we use a hex solid steel bar of about 5 foot in length, spike on one end and flattened at the other.

 

If its a small place your bound to here the dog with the game from an entrance, after that bar down a few inches on where you think the dog maybe and put your ear hard onto the flattened end. Then tell everyone to shut up and stop walking about.

 

If you hear nothing, just keep moving about. till you get something. When you do move away half a meter in all directions until you can say your nearer,. The deeper the earths, the deeper you need to bar down.

 

You will hear the dog digging on, the game digging on, you will hear mute dogs breathing.

 

 

The other method I/we use is ear to the floor, but the bar is superior in a lot of ways, for a start you havnt got to go crawling round everywhere and youll find the dog quicker with the bar.

 

Better if you are armed with 2 bars and can spread out. Deepest we've found a dog is 6 metres (dense place pickaxe all the way). The deepest depth of earths we will dig again got to 3 or 4 metres maximum and no problems finding the dog.

 

 

It's a shame more of the genuine questions asked on this site don't get such clear and straight forward answers.