Pops 19 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 mushroom never said they had AB in them. in fact only a fool would seriously beleive they are the actual alaunts of history. the thing thats silly is the statement that the original alaunt looked like the CAO. no clear record of the no $#!+ alaunt exists. i could just as easily write that they looked like KC french bulldogs and selective breeding did the rest. the oldest type of alaunt we have record of were the french writings. the wiki site states that the english mastives and bulldogs were just mixes of the big hairy alaunt, the main problem w/ that is that there are writen records from the romans of having imported thousands (a month) of mastives or pugnaces from the province of britannia 300 years before the alans ever showed up. there is some indication that the bulldog already existed in britain at the time as well but that isn't clear either. ceasar recorded their ferocity in his attempted invasions. the romans had extensive experience w/ other's dogs in battle the large ferocious dogs of the tuetones & the mollosus of illyria among them. all of them found their way into the colloseum all of these big beasts existed before the western world ever heard of the alans & their dogs. so no the sight doesn't say the same thing that all the other available information does. Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 i am a young lad, and my dogs have been on here. av just had a look at your dogs the catcher the killer and the puller and to be honest dances you said to me 1 scar doesnt prove a thing well thats 1 scar more than any of yours and i take it you run all dogs at once come on lad if your going to take the piss out my dogs atleast make sure yours are working single handed not 3 dogs at once your a young boy who needs to learn alot Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 yep i run all 3 at once. Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 yep i run all 3 at once. thare is no way on this earth that your dog will be harder than any alaunt well you wont know how hard your dog is if you run 3 dogs on things if anything gets away with 3 dogs on it they should all be shot and i think alot of lads will agree running 3 dogs at once is stupid and you must be stupid for running 3 dogs at once Quote Link to post
mushroom 13,546 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 mushroom never said they had AB in them. in fact only a fool would seriously beleive they are the actual alaunts of history. the thing thats silly is the statement that the original alaunt looked like the CAO. no clear record of the no $#!+ alaunt exists. i could just as easily write that they looked like KC french bulldogs and selective breeding did the rest. the oldest type of alaunt we have record of were the french writings. the wiki site states that the english mastives and bulldogs were just mixes of the big hairy alaunt, the main problem w/ that is that there are writen records from the romans of having imported thousands (a month) of mastives or pugnaces from the province of britannia 300 years before the alans ever showed up. there is some indication that the bulldog already existed in britain at the time as well but that isn't clear either. ceasar recorded their ferocity in his attempted invasions. the romans had extensive experience w/ other's dogs in battle the large ferocious dogs of the tuetones & the mollosus of illyria among them. all of them found their way into the colloseum all of these big beasts existed before the western world ever heard of the alans & their dogs. so no the sight doesn't say the same thing that all the other available information does. i think you'll find the alans and their dogs being mentioned in chinese dynastic chronicles written in the 4th centry bc as being very ferocious and game. don't think france or the french language was even a twinkle then mate and as for the romans trading dogs before the alans showed up.they came to europe 800 years after being mentioned by babalonian, chinese and persian texts after the huns chased 'em from the iranian border. archeology has proven that dogs have been traded from the far east to ireland for thousands of years that predates the romans by just a pip and that the dogs traded resembled a heavy set salukis with a strong jaw and pendant ears these dogs can only be mollosers or alaunts (of the ancient kind) they are also thought to have been a bit shaggy in appearance (tibetian mastiff kind of shaggy). Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 yep i run all 3 at once. thare is no way on this earth that your dog will be harder than any alaunt well you wont know how hard your dog is if you run 3 dogs on things if anything gets away with 3 dogs on it they should all be shot and i think alot of lads will agree running 3 dogs at once is stupid and you must be stupid for running 3 dogs at once you assumed i run them as a 3, i was just agreeing. i wont know no, but i can say he probably is. Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 yep i run all 3 at once. thare is no way on this earth that your dog will be harder than any alaunt well you wont know how hard your dog is if you run 3 dogs on things if anything gets away with 3 dogs on it they should all be shot and i think alot of lads will agree running 3 dogs at once is stupid and you must be stupid for running 3 dogs at once you assumed i run them as a 3, i was just agreeing. i wont know no, but i can say he probably is. i think the saying goes all the gear and no idea but your more like all idea and no gaer if i was you i would spend more time thinking what to do with the deer remains Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) deer remains? i was asking as a friend of mine shoots them, not that it is any of your business edited to say, thats why it was in the stalking section. Edited July 6, 2009 by dances Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 dances if your harder and gamer dog cant catch a fox would he draw one from a earth and how long do you think it would take him to kill it single handed just a simple question mate a honest answer would be greatfull cheers Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 im sure he would, but it would take him all day. as he justs bites the same spot. just locks and crunchs Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 im sure he would, but it would take him all day. as he justs bites the same spot. just locks and crunchs or the fox might get away if hes not got another dog to help him as you say hes not bred for foxes thats why you slip 2 dogs on them bye the sounds of things he would prefer catching stuff thats not going to fight back and you say this dog could have made a name for himself Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,848 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 anyway back on topic i like the look of scotsmans big bruiser and would give a similar one a workout espically if they doubled as a good guarddog. but how much are they fetching now as last time i looked they seemed expensive ,mind you i dont even know how much a bull x is now days. Quote Link to post
will 16 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Cheers Mushroom a couple more for ya. thats a cracking looking dog mate Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 anyway back on topic i like the look of scotsmans big bruiser and would give a similar one a workout espically if they doubled as a good guarddog. but how much are they fetching now as last time i looked they seemed expensive ,mind you i dont even know how much a bull x is now days. a think the going price for an alaunt is £250/300 scotsman has 5 in total but hes got 1 thats a real bruiser hes called the littelun what a dog Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 no hes not built for foxes, the same as a pure bull isnt. i dont think breeding is a problem. Quote Link to post
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