gonetoearth 5,144 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 humans die in police custody and no one gets charged do you really think the officer will get charged more likely sent to join the frying squad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 i have just recieved an answer from the police for concerned .... THIS IS WHAT I WROTE TO THEM .......... i am absolutely appauled that a qualified police dog handler could be so negligent as to allow 2 dogs to die in such a horific way. as a qualified dog handler myself i cannot begine to think why he would have left these dogs in a closed vehicle for any lengh of time in the current climate let alone long enough for it to cause their deaths. even your average member of the public who is new to keeping dogs knows about the dangers of keeping dogs in a car in this extreme heat. i hope that the officer concerned is removed from the dog section and is never allowed to keep a dog again. AND THIS WAS THEIR RESPONSE ........... Thank you for contacting Nottinghamshire Police to express your concerns about the death of our two police dogs on Tuesday 30 June. The incident has caused immense shock and sadness throughout the force. I can assure you that we take this matter very seriously and the actions of the force and the individual will be thoroughly investigated. We reported the death of two German shepherd police dogs to the RSPCA, who are now conducting the inquiry. The welfare of our animals is a major concern to us and we are working closely with the RSPCA to establish what happened. We also informed the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) who have since decided the incident should be investigated internally by Nottinghamshire Police. In due course a report will also be given to the Nottinghamshire Police Authority, who have a duty to scrutinise the work of the force and hold the Chief Constable to account. The bond and the love between the trainers, handlers and the dogs is absolutely outstanding. The dog unit and the individual concerned are absolutely devastated by what has happened and we can only imagine what they are going through after losing two of their own team. You may be interested to know that Nottinghamshire Police has its own Animal Welfare Lay Visitors Scheme. This is a group of dedicated members of the public who ensure that our animal welfare is of the highest standards. They are overseen by the police authority and will be included in our internal investigation. Any updates on this incident will be published in the near future Once again thank you for contacting us. If you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us again. Yours ACC Davies Nottinghamshire Police Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,793 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 interesting reply socks as you allready stated its not rocket science is it you dont keep dogs in a car in the heat these are supposed to be proffesionalls !! i dont think so to late now the dogs are dead Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dawnraider09 75 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 read in the paper today the max penalty would be 20 000 fine and 6 months inside ,wil he get it? will he feck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 socks said: i have just recieved an answer from the police for concerned .... THIS IS WHAT I WROTE TO THEM .......... i am absolutely appauled that a qualified police dog handler could be so negligent as to allow 2 dogs to die in such a horific way. as a qualified dog handler myself i cannot begine to think why he would have left these dogs in a closed vehicle for any lengh of time in the current climate let alone long enough for it to cause their deaths. even your average member of the public who is new to keeping dogs knows about the dangers of keeping dogs in a car in this extreme heat. i hope that the officer concerned is removed from the dog section and is never allowed to keep a dog again. AND THIS WAS THEIR RESPONSE ........... Thank you for contacting Nottinghamshire Police to express your concerns about the death of our two police dogs on Tuesday 30 June. The incident has caused immense shock and sadness throughout the force. I can assure you that we take this matter very seriously and the actions of the force and the individual will be thoroughly investigated. We reported the death of two German shepherd police dogs to the RSPCA, who are now conducting the inquiry. The welfare of our animals is a major concern to us and we are working closely with the RSPCA to establish what happened. We also informed the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) who have since decided the incident should be investigated internally by Nottinghamshire Police. In due course a report will also be given to the Nottinghamshire Police Authority, who have a duty to scrutinise the work of the force and hold the Chief Constable to account. The bond and the love between the trainers, handlers and the dogs is absolutely outstanding. The dog unit and the individual concerned are absolutely devastated by what has happened and we can only imagine what they are going through after losing two of their own team. You may be interested to know that Nottinghamshire Police has its own Animal Welfare Lay Visitors Scheme. This is a group of dedicated members of the public who ensure that our animal welfare is of the highest standards. They are overseen by the police authority and will be included in our internal investigation. Any updates on this incident will be published in the near future Once again thank you for contacting us. If you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us s ACC Davies Nottinghamshire Police ain't they "just a charity"?...................RSPCA?, or maybe even the pigs if and when they need to be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Simoman said: Bet my left bollock nothing happens........................ Your right mate.Nothing will be done.As per it,s one rule for them and anouther for us.What get,s me this guy is a dog handler ?.atb. Catcher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
halloween man 12 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 socks said: i have just recieved an answer from the police for concerned .... THIS IS WHAT I WROTE TO THEM .......... i am absolutely appauled that a qualified police dog handler could be so negligent as to allow 2 dogs to die in such a horific way. as a qualified dog handler myself i cannot begine to think why he would have left these dogs in a closed vehicle for any lengh of time in the current climate let alone long enough for it to cause their deaths. even your average member of the public who is new to keeping dogs knows about the dangers of keeping dogs in a car in this extreme heat. i hope that the officer concerned is removed from the dog section and is never allowed to keep a dog again. AND THIS WAS THEIR RESPONSE ........... Thank you for contacting Nottinghamshire Police to express your concerns about the death of our two police dogs on Tuesday 30 June. The incident has caused immense shock and sadness throughout the force. I can assure you that we take this matter very seriously and the actions of the force and the individual will be thoroughly investigated. We reported the death of two German shepherd police dogs to the RSPCA, who are now conducting the inquiry. The welfare of our animals is a major concern to us and we are working closely with the RSPCA to establish what happened. We also informed the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) who have since decided the incident should be investigated internally by Nottinghamshire Police. In due course a report will also be given to the Nottinghamshire Police Authority, who have a duty to scrutinise the work of the force and hold the Chief Constable to account. The bond and the love between the trainers, handlers and the dogs is absolutely outstanding. The dog unit and the individual concerned are absolutely devastated by what has happened and we can only imagine what they are going through after losing two of their own team. You may be interested to know that Nottinghamshire Police has its own Animal Welfare Lay Visitors Scheme. This is a group of dedicated members of the public who ensure that our animal welfare is of the highest standards. They are overseen by the police authority and will be included in our internal investigation. Any updates on this incident will be published in the near future Once again thank you for contacting us. If you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us again. Yours ACC Davies Nottinghamshire Police Investigated internally you know what that means Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Dog death Pc 'too ill' for court The dogs died at the police headquarters at Sherwood Lodge A police dog handler accused of leaving two of his German Shepherds to die in his car was "too ill" to attend his first court hearing in Nottingham. Pc Mark Johnson faces one charge of causing unnecessary suffering after he allegedly left the police dogs in the back of his car on 30 June. The 40-year-old did not attend the short hearing in Nottingham earlier. The deaths happened on one of the hottest days of the year, when temperatures reached 29.3C (84.7F). Dog championship Mr Johnson was represented at Nottingham Magistrates' Court by his solicitor and a member of the Police Federation. The defendant is accused of leaving his dogs, 10-year-old Jet and 18-month-old Jay-Jay, to die after he went in to Nottinghamshire Police's headquarters in Arnold. The prosecution is being brought by the RSPCA, which accuses Mr Johnson of "unnecessarily confining them [his dogs] in an environment that was detrimental to their well-being". It is understood that Jet came third at last year's National Police Dog Championship and Jay-Jay was being trained to replace the older dog. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/notting...ire/8246999.stm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 UK NEWS HANDLER MAY BE LET OFF FOR POLICE DOGS THAT BAKED TO DEATH IN CAR Police mourned the tragic death of the dogs Thursday September 10,2009 A POLICE dog handler whose two Âalsatians died in his car during a heatwave may never stand trial. PC Mark Johnson was due to make a first appearance before magistrates yesterday but was not well enough to attend court. He is accused of causing unnecessary suffering to the animals for which he could face up to six months in jail. The 40-year-old officer is believed to be suffering from stress. Magistrates at Nottingham were handed a doctor's certificate stating that he was unfit to attend. During a 10-minute hearing, PC Johnson's solicitor Mr Damian Kelly told the court: "The defence will be obtaining a psychiatric report regarding his fitness to plead." The dogs – Jet, 10, and 18-month-old Jay-Jay – were left unattended in the officer's car outside Nottinghamshire police HQ in June as temperatures outside reached 83F (28C). Mr Kelly also made a successful application in private to District Judge Morris Cooper for a ban on publishing details of PC Johnson's address. Nottingham Chief Constable Julia Hodson revealed previously she had been inundated by an angry public response to the deaths of the dogs. "We have had a lot of emails, telephone calls and letters from members of the public, most of whom want the officer involved dealt with most harshly," she said. Judge Cooper told yesterday's hearing: "I am satisfied that there are substantial grounds that the admin- istration of justice would be likely to be severely prejudiced if Mr Johnson's address be published." He adjourned the case until next month. PC Johnson is one of the country's top police dog handlers and Jet was admired as one of the UK's most accomplished police dogs. Jet was due to retire from routine police work, but was to be retrained to sniff out weapons while Jay-Jay was being trained to replace him in frontline duties. Despite his age Jet finished third in the 2007 National Police Dog Championships. After the incident, PC Johnson was given home leave and suspended. If convicted he could be jailed for six months and fined up to £20,000. The prosecution is being brought by the RSPCA, which accuses PC Johnson of confining the dogs in an environment detrimental to their well-being. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gaz 284 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I hope they throw the the book at this twat!!...but i very much doubt it,i was fuming when i heard of this back when it happened...not just for the poor dogs but also the thought of this c**t getting a slap on the wrists for it....i hope im proved wrong and he gets what he deserves considering his position as a so called profesional dog handler...what a fecking joke :wankerzo4: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bootsha 1,306 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Simoman said: Bet my left bollock nothing happens........................ You could safely bet your matching pair Simoman and they'd be still be there afterwards for you to use, on whoever/ what ever you choose !!!!!............... Seriously though, it's shamefull, imagine what would happen to one of us, and the publicity we'd get if a working terrier or lurcher suffered the same apphaling death......... then you wouldn't want to bet one of your spuds on that one Simoman... let me tell you! B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antg 1,787 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 well there you go fellas, next time one of us has a court appointment we carnt make it because we have STRESS!!!!! that would realy stand up now wouldnt it would realy like to see this fella get what he deserves :realmad: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Regular daily checks are needed before performing your dutys. Dog vans should always be checked to see the air con fans are working. Seems like they wernt working, or they could of been and faulted during his duty. He will not be sacked from his job, the worst if at the handlers fault be taken off the dog unit, however i cannot see this happening. Its a great shame for any dog to die in these circumstances, the handler must be devestated too!! The force will miss them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Oh great he kills his dogs through stupidity then is off work with pay due to stress. Then as we all expect the whole sorry matter will be swept under the carpet. Do you sometimes feel as if public opinion means nothing anymore and we all have our lives run by a small left wing elite. With the shit we have had to swallow in recent years, we should be marching in London on a weekly basis or even conducting complete civil disobedience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
migmog 1 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Im just woundering what bullshit excuse they'l come out with for this one ????? :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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