langouroux 14 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 hi there guys..i have shotgun..and i am keen rifle shot and currently starting to deer stalk etc....but i have no experience with rough shooting, do you need a dog? i have a lab but he is totally untrained..although very intersted in the rabbits i bring home when ive been out with the rifle. when you go rough shooting are you just walking the hedges shooting at what steps out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kingkeeper21 2 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 if you havent got a dog pal dont be put off rough shooting to me is just having a walk round and getting away for a couple of hours and having a shot at the odd pheasant or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gossy 3 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 it doesnt matter that you dont have a dog. but taking your lab even though untrained will still probably help as his nose will no doubt still work and he may just put up something you dont no is there. aslong as he is not afraid of gun shot. but yes rough shooting is really all about just walking about being satified with anything be it a woodcock,snipe,rabbit,pigeon,pheasant,hare or partridge you really could get anything and thats the beauty of it.its not about big bags its about just having a mooch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Life 0 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 hi there guys..i have shotgun..and i am keen rifle shot and currently starting to deer stalk etc....but i have no experience with rough shooting, do you need a dog? i have a lab but he is totally untrained..although very intersted in the rabbits i bring home when ive been out with the rifle. when you go rough shooting are you just walking the hedges shooting at what steps out? A Gundog is an asset that you can not live without, (if you have one), BUT they are not essential for rough shooting, I shoot over rough and hilly terrain I would not cover this ground without my Tess, she does me proud BUT being a Springer she will always think she knows best and keeping her close and flushing where YOU want her to flush can be a little bit of a headache. Springers never grow up... If you shoot over water you will need a dog without question, I wouldnt dream of shooting over or near water without a gundog. moreover to have a trusted compainion by your side takes a hell of a lot of leg work out rough shooting.. I love my dog more than the wife truth be told... she doesnt answere me back and never complains if she doesnt want to work she roles over on her back, legs in the air with a look on her face as to say, no scratch my belly instead.. Happy Hunting Country Life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GSPDave 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I wouldn't go without my dog just incase I didn't kill it out right (not the dog) and the bird started legging it, even if you do kill it sometimes they can be a bugger to find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullxryno 21 Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 i didnt have a dog when i first start but i still used to go out for a few hour and just walk some hedges off! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theinvisiblescarecrow 0 Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 I've got a nutty untrained "family pet" Springer. Sort of self trained now & loves it when I go for a walk with the gun. Loves going ferreting as well. Take your dog for a walk, take a few shots & miss, just see what the dog does at gunfire. If you have rabbits be aware of dog position at all times. Mine is not steady at heel but at least I know where he is by the way the undergrowth is moveing. If I don't know I assume no ground game shooting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hily 379 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 In the long term you have to have a dog that at least will retrieve any game that is only wounded and if it's steady then you'v got the best hunting pal you will ever need my idea of rough shooting is to hunt with a gun and dog anything else is just sratching about hopeing to stumble accross game .GET A DOG it will find and flush game for you to shoot and return it to hand when shot. enjoy the hunt. good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tommygun166 0 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 a dog will flush stuff out but if u dont have a dog u just need to flush stuff out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hily 379 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 if you don't use a dog you will miss out.atb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevoman 4 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 here in ireland mostly we all rough shoot and its folly to do so without a dog. you need your dog to flush opoint or set pheasent , snipe and woodcock. we are lucky here in ireland that rough shooting is mostly the only way people shoot so you have to work really really hard for some feathers but its all worth it. i shoot over a lewellin setter myslef. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spanj 11 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 here in ireland mostly we all rough shoot and its folly to do so without a dog. you need your dog to flush opoint or set pheasent , snipe and woodcock. we are lucky here in ireland that rough shooting is mostly the only way people shoot so you have to work really really hard for some feathers but its all worth it. i shoot over a lewellin setter myslef. Whats a lewellin setter look like ??????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevoman 4 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 here in ireland mostly we all rough shoot and its folly to do so without a dog. you need your dog to flush opoint or set pheasent , snipe and woodcock. we are lucky here in ireland that rough shooting is mostly the only way people shoot so you have to work really really hard for some feathers but its all worth it. i shoot over a lewellin setter myslef. Whats a lewellin setter look like ??????? looks like an english setter. it can also be argued all day whether she's a lewellin or an english setter. the breed isnt officially recognised in ireland under the kennel club, but they have been bred in ireland from some priest for years. here's a picture of my little lady called molly the day after the duck season opened on september 1st last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave C 63 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 You should definitely take your Lab, trained or not, my mate has a Cocker X that i did some training with but when he got it back he never carried on with it , so she is pretty wild and dose what she wants, but she is still class on flushing game, you just have to be careful when shooting as she carnt be stopped. On one farm i even take my Terrier because the cover is so thick and he is no gundog, but we would get very little without them. Sunday morning Luckily i have a Lab pup nearly 7 months so hopefully no more shouting at dogs when she gets out . Give it a go mate you will learn from each other. Let us know how you get on. Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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