Guest mk3 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 i agree 1/3 or use 50p as a rough guide, jimmy over the years i have bred and most my life been around peaple with working terriers including after the stupid new law , trust me mate its down to the owner and any vet can do it not just the vet what docked them(what i dont understand is why any terrier man would want there dog chipping) it all spells trouble to me Correct Mk3. (on the 1/3 and the chipping). The pup just has to be chipped before 6 months. Doesn't matter by who so long as they are a vet or a qualified implanter like myself. I personally get mine chipped before they go because if the owner didn't get it done i wouldn't want it coming back on me... MK3, apparently (though I must admidt I haven't ever done it)...The chip registrations forms can be sent in blank. Therefore the dog is chipped just the chip is not registered to anybody... someone off here told me.. With the microchips, my suppliers keep all the barcode/chip info so if a dog had gone missing and was found and scanned and there was no details of the owner on the database they would contact my supplier as they can follow the path where it got sold to and they can ask me if I knew the owners details. (so i could say no, but have kept my own records to the side so could then contact the owner) Apparently anyway! lol nice one mate i tend to only let pups go to working homes, some do end up in fammily homes as pets but will set the the new pet owner straight on the laws Quote Link to post
jenksi87 3 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 as the pup grows the chip could end up any where under the skin of the dog(7/8 weeks best age) surely that doesnt matter as if they dont find the chip in the normal place they scan the whole dog anyway? Quote Link to post
jenksi87 3 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 THERES NO BIG DEAL OR SECRET IN CUTTING PUPS TAILS, GET 3X2 TIMBER BLOCK, A GOOD NEW STANLEY BLADE, PUT THE PUPS TAIL ON THE 3X2 AND CUT OFF MORE THAN HALF THE TAIL, TRY IT ON A FAG / CIGARETTE FIRST, THEN DO IT TO THE TAIL, HAVE SOME ONE HOLD THE PUP IF YOUR A BIT NERVOUS, ALL YOU GET IS A FEW DROPS OF BLOOD, THEN PUT THE PUPS BACK WITH THE MOTHER, THERE ARE VERY FEW NERVES IN THERE TAILS AT 1-3 DAYS OLD, AND THEY WONT BLEED MUCH, SOME DAY YOU WILL DO IT , SO WHY NOT DO IT NOW.. is that really a good idea for someone that doesnt know what there doing? and dont you have to be licensed to do it or face a hefty fine and prosecution if you get caught? do you not have to sterilise / cortirise after the cut? and would it not be better to use a ligature to cut circulation and let the tail drop off naturally through lack of blood after a few days? Quote Link to post
francolin 449 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 THERES NO BIG DEAL OR SECRET IN CUTTING PUPS TAILS, GET 3X2 TIMBER BLOCK, A GOOD NEW STANLEY BLADE, PUT THE PUPS TAIL ON THE 3X2 AND CUT OFF MORE THAN HALF THE TAIL, TRY IT ON A FAG / CIGARETTE FIRST, THEN DO IT TO THE TAIL, HAVE SOME ONE HOLD THE PUP IF YOUR A BIT NERVOUS, ALL YOU GET IS A FEW DROPS OF BLOOD, THEN PUT THE PUPS BACK WITH THE MOTHER, THERE ARE VERY FEW NERVES IN THERE TAILS AT 1-3 DAYS OLD, AND THEY WONT BLEED MUCH, SOME DAY YOU WILL DO IT , SO WHY NOT DO IT NOW.. is that really a good idea for someone that doesnt know what there doing? and dont you have to be licensed to do it or face a hefty fine and prosecution if you get caught? do you not have to sterilise / cortirise after the cut? and would it not be better to use a ligature to cut circulation and let the tail drop off naturally through lack of blood after a few days? what do you reckon p***y USE aligature ,cortirise the cut give me fxxxing strength. Quote Link to post
BRYKAY 2 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 is that really a good idea for someone that doesnt know what there doing? and dont you have to be licensed to do it or face a hefty fine and prosecution if you get caught? do you not have to sterilise / cortirise after the cut? and would it not be better to use a ligature to cut circulation and let the tail drop off naturally through lack of blood after a few days? PREHISTORIC METHOD THAT ONE MATE, PEOPLE DOING THIS SHOULD HAVE A LIGATURE PUT ON THEIR BELL-END TO SEE WHAT THE PAIN IS LIKE Quote Link to post
Guest mk3 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 THERES NO BIG DEAL OR SECRET IN CUTTING PUPS TAILS, GET 3X2 TIMBER BLOCK, A GOOD NEW STANLEY BLADE, PUT THE PUPS TAIL ON THE 3X2 AND CUT OFF MORE THAN HALF THE TAIL, TRY IT ON A FAG / CIGARETTE FIRST, THEN DO IT TO THE TAIL, HAVE SOME ONE HOLD THE PUP IF YOUR A BIT NERVOUS, ALL YOU GET IS A FEW DROPS OF BLOOD, THEN PUT THE PUPS BACK WITH THE MOTHER, THERE ARE VERY FEW NERVES IN THERE TAILS AT 1-3 DAYS OLD, AND THEY WONT BLEED MUCH, SOME DAY YOU WILL DO IT , SO WHY NOT DO IT NOW.. is that really a good idea for someone that doesnt know what there doing? and dont you have to be licensed to do it or face a hefty fine and prosecution if you get caught? do you not have to sterilise / cortirise after the cut? and would it not be better to use a ligature to cut circulation and let the tail drop off naturally through lack of blood after a few days? what a load of bollox seen this done years back . infecton and pain spring to mind Quote Link to post
Guest mk3 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 not aimed at you p***y Quote Link to post
jenksi87 3 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 what a load of bollox seen this done years back . infecton and pain spring to mind it was a question. no need to get f*****g shirty. you lads may know what your doing as far as docking goes but i dont. now you can tell me not to comment then but if you read the post i was asking a question not stating a fact Quote Link to post
ferreter.al 22 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 i,m from durham and tried to get my litter of ess docked 2 years ago i rang every vet out the yellow pages many said it was illigal and i told them it was not as my dogs were exempt, only one would have done them if i had being registered with them for 2 years, when you have your dogs docked you have to also have them micro chipped ! iv got a vet that will do them,you need a shot gun lisence but saying that there was a bloke there with a litter of jrt,s that didnt have anything at all!!he dosent bother micro chipping them either,had my litter of cockers done last thursday,theres 6 of them,docked and dew clawed £50 how old of pups,he will do them for 1st 4 days,s.yorks area,think it mite be out of you way,atb Quote Link to post
GameBirdMeg 21 Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 as the pup grows the chip could end up any where under the skin of the dog(7/8 weeks best age) surely that doesnt matter as if they dont find the chip in the normal place they scan the whole dog anyway? I don't mean to be rude but think about it a bit.... If a microchip moves down a dogs leg for instance and positions its self on a joint or say in the dogs toes it's not very comfortable.... Quote Link to post
Keeps 403 Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 as the pup grows the chip could end up any where under the skin of the dog(7/8 weeks best age) surely that doesnt matter as if they dont find the chip in the normal place they scan the whole dog anyway? I don't mean to be rude but think about it a bit.... If a microchip moves down a dogs leg for instance and positions its self on a joint or say in the dogs toes it's not very comfortable.... Agree, its far too early to chip a puppy at a few days old. Our vet won't chip them till its time for their second jab at around 11 weeks old, because when they are so tiny and growing its possible the chip can move to somewhere it shouldn't. Theres nothing in the regulations to say it has to be done on the same day of the docking. Quote Link to post
fireman 11,026 Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I've just had some pups done in Norwich and the vet said i've got 3 months to micro chip,he's given me the chips and forms so any future owners can get them done at there own vets or whatever.A permission letter for pest control is all that is needed and not a sgc,saying that how many vets have phoned up and checked with the land owners that the letter is a real one?,mine was but others may not be . Quote Link to post
webby 31 Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 My vet does mine for £8 per pup and you get a cert. i do them with the vet and 1/3 off the end of the tail with a pair of docking scissors and some silver nitrate. this gives a full palm width in length when the pup is fully grown. Generally for a vet to do the tails they will take payment first and add on the price of the chipping so you come back about 8 weeks later for the implant, this then makes it about £30 per pup. Quote Link to post
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