Guest air gunner Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I have been shooting for a fair while now and thought i had got the hang of zeroing. However after reading a post about bipods on springers it made me wonder if i am zeroing of a bench then my zero wont be in the same place if i shoot standing up or any other position other than off a bench? Am i right? any tips on zeroing my springer for all positions. Quote Link to post
borak 1 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i bought myself a padded fishing stool from pound shop near me and zeroed off that it gave me the same zero i had for standing kneeling ect Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 a hard surface reflects the recoil and bounces... so yup i'd say a foft 'mount' to zero with, as it happens those tristools are pritty good.. shit for sitting on unless you like that weird pratrution in a delicate place hehehehe but brill as a rest. Quote Link to post
borak 1 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 a hard surface reflects the recoil and bounces... so yup i'd say a foft 'mount' to zero with, as it happens those tristools are pritty good.. shit for sitting on unless you like that weird pratrution in a delicate place hehehehe but brill as a rest. i agree there not too great for sitting on Quote Link to post
smokin 0 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 you can get 2 for a fiver at asda at the moment ive found the little bean bags useful with a springer - never bought one but borrrowed mind or ive just stolen all the cushions of the setee at home!! springers do tend to have a bit of zero shift depending on how you hold them (or what position you are in affectin how you hold em) - more to do with how you cushion the recoil rather than any strange goings on - something to get used to but for convenience if you do 99% of your shooting prone for example, thats how id try to zero it then learn its differences in the other positions down at the range ive never thought the difference is that great anyway atb chris Quote Link to post
Wolly 4 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i didny have a problem scoping my old springer in and i was leaning on a bin lol Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I will try and not write too much of an essay here but its all to do with how springers recoil. When fired a springers muzzle will move upwards first and then down due to movement of the piston pusing the rifle back and then it moving forwards again. So your zero has to account for this. If you hold the gun differently or rest it on a hard surface the recoil is changed. This causes the point of impact to change in relation to the new recoil as when fired the muzzle no longer moves in the same way. So the best way to zero your springer is to do it from your favourite shooting position. If this invloves leaning on something then that is fine. But if you are going to be taking all of your shots standing and unrested then zeroing your springer from a hard rest while prone is going to be pretty pointless. Yes you will still be able to take shots from sitting or prone but be aware that your point of impact is likely to be slightly different so practice like this so you know how different you are talking and can adjust your aim accordingly. I hope that makes some sense. ATB Freddy Quote Link to post
MikeyBoy456 0 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i just stole the ironing board and took the pillows off of my bed and placed them on top of it and walaaa a nice spongey rest. I dont think that anything will change if u were to stand up as im usually standing when im firing it i just find it much easier to zero my gun at home whilst on a spongey rest Quote Link to post
dso88 15 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i just lye down to zero mine my favourate shooting position and its fine when i stand and kneel Quote Link to post
Wolly 4 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I Have To Stand Up To Shoot Me lol Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Cheers lads. i aam going to zero differetly at each permission now when lamping i stand when shooting early morning or evening i lie down or sit and rest. cheers for the descriptions. Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) The point is that you might be able to keep it the same if you can keep the recoil the same but that doesn't always work. It might turn out that the difference is negligible, but there will nearly always be some difference in recoil with resting and leaning as the gun will pivot around a different point, and the resistance will be different. dso88 has the right idea zero in your favourite position and then if everything is ok in other positions you are fine might not be spot on but pretty much there. No problem airgunner happy to help mate and good luck. ATB Freddy Edited June 16, 2009 by Freddy Watts Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 thanks i had better get out there and choose a favoured position then. It would be standing if i could gaurentee a precise shot. But there we go. cheers i will tell you guys the results. Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 The trick with springers is you don't 'hold' them, you let them rest. Whatever position you're shooting from just support the weight of the gun rather than trying to grip it. That way the gun can recoil in it's own happy way each time instead of your grip dictateing the way it recoils. The problem is that the gun moves before the shot's left the barrel and that's what neeeds to be remembered and accounted for. Never rest it on anything solid (as has been said), just let it sit in your hands or on something soft and you should be OK. Cheers. Quote Link to post
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