my patterdale pup

[4paws 0]

Hi

This is my pup he is now 13 weeks old 2nd pic, smooth coated, the dog was rough coated and the bitch smooth.

when I picked him up, I was told that both parents were from the Nuttall line, this meant nothing to me,

anyone got any views on this line or why they are being rated so highly?

 

Now I took him pup classes last week to help him be nice and friendly to other dogs, and was advised to get him neutered

( sorry guys, cross ya legs).

But not in 6 months time but as soon as his balls drop. Stop the testerone before it gets a chance to start.

I don`t think I will breed from him but what do you think they are trying to say to me, that he is going to be vicious because of his breed.

I have already got a staffie, so I know what I am dealing with to a certain extent, with terriers.

He will be part kept in his run during the day but I always let my dogs in at night.

any advice would be helpful, thanks.

 

oh just a couple more pics, Why is he pinning every dog he meets down by the neck?

Edited June 14, 2009 by 4paws

[awen 29]

Hi

This is my pup he is now 13 weeks old 2nd pic, smooth coated, the dog was rough coated and the bitch smooth.

when I picked him up, I was told that both parents were from the Nuttall line, this meant nothing to me,

anyone got any views on this line or why they are being rated so highly?

 

Now I took him pup classes last week to help him be nice and friendly to other dogs, and was advised to get him neutered

( sorry guys, cross ya legs).

But not in 6 months time but as soon as his balls drop. Stop the testerone before it gets a chance to start.

I don`t think I will breed from him but what do you think they are trying to say to me, that he is going to be vicious because of his breed.

I have already got a staffie, so I know what I am dealing with to a certain extent, with terriers.

He will be part kept in his run during the day but I always let my dogs in at night.

any advice would be helpful, thanks.

 

oh just a couple more pics, Why is he pinning every dog he meets down by the neck?

ive got two terriers one is a pat, they can be fiesty but trhats down to there breeding[there bred to do a job] so dont worry aslong as your workin him and keepin his mind stimulated there is no reason why he should be a vicious dog, training is the key reward him for good behaviour and put him on his own for a while for bad behaviour. i never seen the need to have my dogs balls cut off not unless they really were becomin a problem[shaggin anything that moves or over aggressive]. as for this idiot who advised you to get him neuted, my old vet always used to try this and i reckon it was down to them makin a bit more cash, if its some dumb woman at the puppy training classes who wonders around with a chawowa! then ill say no more. youve probably got a dominant dog thats why he pins others to the ground but aslong as hes not gettin visciuos its nothing to worry about hes still a pup and will still want to play let him.

[TOPPER 1,809]

hes a pup for fck sake let him play let him be a pup and as for butchering the poor sod dont entertain it let the dog mature before you even think about castretion but if you train him right this wont be a problem it s just a falasy anyway cutting his nuts off wont make him any less likely to attack other dogs thats down to you and your training

[4paws 0]

ive got two terriers one is a pat, they can be fiesty but trhats down to there breeding[there bred to do a job] so dont worry aslong as your workin him and keepin his mind stimulated there is no reason why he should be a vicious dog, training is the key reward him for good behaviour and put him on his own for a while for bad behaviour. i never seen the need to have my dogs balls cut off not unless they really were becomin a problem[shaggin anything that moves or over aggressive]. as for this idiot who advised you to get him neuted, my old vet always used to try this and i reckon it was down to them makin a bit more cash, if its some dumb woman at the puppy training classes who wonders around with a chawowa! then ill say no more. youve probably got a dominant dog thats why he pins others to the ground but aslong as hes not gettin visciuos its nothing to worry about hes still a pup and will still want to play let him.

 

Thanks awen

I have a feeling it is the get cash out of me, the pup training classes are run by a bloke who has trained dogs for 50 years, what I have seen so far he is good.

But I think because I am a woman and blonde they think I am probably an easy target. ( come to think back he did say he had a vet who would neuter him as soon as his balls dropped if my own vet wouldn`t.

Oh I am glad I have joined the forum to get the advise from all you people who have hands on knowledge of the breed.

He is playing all day long, great little chap a real pleasure to have.

[4paws 0]

hes a pup for fck sake let him play let him be a pup and as for butchering the poor sod dont entertain it let the dog mature before you even think about castretion but if you train him right this wont be a problem it s just a falasy anyway cutting his nuts off wont make him any less likely to attack other dogs thats down to you and your training

 

Hi TOPPER

Thanks for the advice, You have just said what my Dad would of said to me if he was still alive, he always said

"you never mess with a dogs bollocks".

As for my training, I will be putting lots into this little fellow, he is great, but very dominent, it`s going to be the hardest dog to train for me.

I want him to do the job he was born to do. I feel strongly about working dogs that they should work as intended to do.

If not they go crazy.

[jack_frost 0]

hes a pup for fck sake let him play let him be a pup and as for butchering the poor sod dont entertain it let the dog mature before you even think about castretion but if you train him right this wont be a problem it s just a falasy anyway cutting his nuts off wont make him any less likely to attack other dogs thats down to you and your training

 

Hi TOPPER

Thanks for the advice, You have just said what my Dad would of said to me if he was still alive, he always said

"you never mess with a dogs bollocks".

As for my training, I will be putting lots into this little fellow, he is great, but very dominent, it`s going to be the hardest dog to train for me.

I want him to do the job he was born to do. I feel strongly about working dogs that they should work as intended to do.

If not they go crazy.

I got a patterdale lad head strong little b____d at times but his heart is massive stick with him he will come right...............dan..........and as for having him done bit my pal has one with no nuts and its a handful to be sure whats in em is in em but the rest it like kids they know what you teach em.............good luck danny........

[kash 1]

good luck with the pup pal as far as giving him the chop goes iwould only do that if it a matter of life or death

and i wouldn't do to a dog that i wouldn't do to myself

[martync1967 64]

here is a little bit of info Brian Nuttall has more than 50 years of experience working and maintaining this breed. His grandfather was a gamekeeper and bred working terriers. Brian's own strain of terrier started with dogs from his grandfather, and later -- as with many of the great strains -- some of the legendary Breay Buck strain was introduced. Cyril Breay and Franck Buck have had some of the biggest impact on the modern Patterdale Terrier.picture is brian with flint

Edited June 16, 2009 by martync1967

[jack_frost 0]

here is a little bit of info Brian Nuttall has more than 50 years of experience working and maintaining this breed. His grandfather was a gamekeeper and bred working terriers. Brian's own strain of terrier started with dogs from his grandfather, and later -- as with many of the great strains -- some of the legendary Breay Buck strain was introduced. Cyril Breay and Franck Buck have had some of the biggest impact on the modern Patterdale Terrier.picture is brian with flint

SPOT ON marty

[awen 29]

ive got two terriers one is a pat, they can be fiesty but trhats down to there breeding[there bred to do a job] so dont worry aslong as your workin him and keepin his mind stimulated there is no reason why he should be a vicious dog, training is the key reward him for good behaviour and put him on his own for a while for bad behaviour. i never seen the need to have my dogs balls cut off not unless they really were becomin a problem[shaggin anything that moves or over aggressive]. as for this idiot who advised you to get him neuted, my old vet always used to try this and i reckon it was down to them makin a bit more cash, if its some dumb woman at the puppy training classes who wonders around with a chawowa! then ill say no more. youve probably got a dominant dog thats why he pins others to the ground but aslong as hes not gettin visciuos its nothing to worry about hes still a pup and will still want to play let him.

 

Thanks awen

I have a feeling it is the get cash out of me, the pup training classes are run by a bloke who has trained dogs for 50 years, what I have seen so far he is good.

But I think because I am a woman and blonde they think I am probably an easy target. ( come to think back he did say he had a vet who would neuter him as soon as his balls dropped if my own vet wouldn`t.

Oh I am glad I have joined the forum to get the advise from all you people who have hands on knowledge of the breed.

He is playing all day long, great little chap a real pleasure to have. theres always someone tryin to take advantage, the trick is to sniff em out befor they rip you off(maybe someone should breed a dog with that type of noselol). atb 4 paws keep us all updated on his progress

[arcticgun 4,548]

I own a 6 year old nuttal terrier, who I was kindly given by what I consider a 'real dog man' with god knows how many years expierience, who works his dogs to there individual strenghts, he gave him to me to help bring on my lurcher pups, the dog lives in our house along with 4 bitches and two kids, one of which is my 3 year old daughter. He is a right 'tool' whilst out in the field and a proven killer on various game, a prolific hunter, but once home all that goes out the window, he is easy going, trustworthy and an excellent pet dog.

 

The dogs tempererment will only become nasty if he is not treated well, which I assume he will be, so no real need to castrate him as yet, IMHO the advice you where given is horrible and really judgemental of the breed, atvb Richard

[4paws 0]

I own a 6 year old nuttal terrier, who I was kindly given by what I consider a 'real dog man' with god knows how many years expierience, who works his dogs to there individual strenghts, he gave him to me to help bring on my lurcher pups, the dog lives in our house along with 4 bitches and two kids, one of which is my 3 year old daughter. He is a right 'tool' whilst out in the field and a proven killer on various game, a prolific hunter, but once home all that goes out the window, he is easy going, trustworthy and an excellent pet dog.

 

The dogs tempererment will only become nasty if he is not treated well, which I assume he will be, so no real need to castrate him as yet, IMHO the advice you where given is horrible and really judgemental of the breed, atvb Richard

 

Hi all

Thanks for all your info and advice, There will be NO neutering him. I wonder what I will be told this week at the pup training class.

I only want to go to get him socialized with all other breeds of dogs.

I was also told last week that you do not harness a dog for training, only guard dogs are trained in a harness, the reason is they need to be vicious and protective, and this is not what you put a pup in.

 

Oh dear I only took him in a little harness as his collar was just that bit too loose and I didn`t want him backing out of it.

 

Anyone got any views on harness or collar for training? What did you use? I know in a few months he will just be on a slip lead for working.

But the law is you must have a collar with name tag in public places, well I am glad I will be in the woods and private land, or does that law apply to collar and tag at all times? I hate these laws they confuse me.

 

Anyway just had a great walk with all three dogs and let him off his lead, he kept close by and followed the others.

Just a couple of pics I just took today

 

Oh dear he is digging up the lawn and my can he dig fast for a little pup.