AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 i would say it depended on the individual situation if cubs are near game birds or an area thats heavily populated i'd say bring on a pup or two and logically if the bit of land is lacking foxes then whats the harm in encouraging, theres been a few topics about breeding and releasing rabbits so why not in certain circumstances help the fox however what my logic tells me to do then what i would do when forced into making that choice i'm not sure what i'd do if i'm honest probably feed them - though admittly not venison what a waste!! with regards to respect your wildlife and quarry by zig zag wonderer damn right! the fox is so cleaver and can out smart many a dog, they have adapted to live in so many types of cover, from deserts to mountains to cities and forest, they is something to say about an animal without the use of modern technolagy that is able to do this, humans wouldn't last a week unless strictly trained yet they do it by instinct good luck in everyone who is currently feeding cubs and enjoy hunting next season!!! seriously you have NOT got a clue!..."if cubs are near game birds"...mature fox can be found 20 mile radius from where its whelped!...you are helping and encourage vermin...FACT!...f**k me what ever happened to pest controll Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest foxyjo. Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Stop bouncing up and down!!! Lurcher Lass said something very important - "it depended on the individual situation". What else needs to be said?????? If you're rearing birds chances are you'll kill them...if you like to watch hounds at work, you'll leave them be, and maybe give thm a bit of a hand. We've all got the message - you're big and 'ard. Congratulations!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Stop bouncing up and down!!! Lurcher Lass said something very important - "it depended on the individual situation". What else needs to be said?????? If you're rearing birds chances are you'll kill them...if you like to watch hounds at work, you'll leave them be, and maybe give thm a bit of a hand. We've all got the message - you're big and 'ard. Congratulations!!! bouncing up and down!? are you talking to me ??....dont see pest control as " big and hard"...please explain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rabbit tourmentor 29 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 is general talk were all the tree huggers hang out is this not a hunting site Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest foxyjo. Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Stop bouncing up and down!!! Lurcher Lass said something very important - "it depended on the individual situation". What else needs to be said?????? If you're rearing birds chances are you'll kill them...if you like to watch hounds at work, you'll leave them be, and maybe give thm a bit of a hand. We've all got the message - you're big and 'ard. Congratulations!!! bouncing up and down!? are you talking to me ??....dont see pest control as " big and hard"...please explain? Yes - I'm talking to you. I don't think I need to explain further...I have trees that want hugging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zig zag wanderer 0 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 bollox you do know your on a HUNTING forum dont you? This forum is also for pest controllers and that is what I am. I deal with public health pests and wildlife management. In other words everything from rats, mice, fleas and bedbuges to squirrels, rabbits foxes and mink and everything in-between. I recently had to trap a fox underneath a customer's shed. I caught it and released it in a carefully chosen site where I thought it would survive but would cause little damage in the area. It was one of this year's cubs. Sadly the gamekeeper/hunter mentality can't think beyond "this species is a pest so it must be killed". As I said wildlife management is a balance which sometimes requires the use of a brain instead of a bullet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 bollox you do know your on a HUNTING forum dont you? This forum is also for pest controllers and that is what I am. I deal with public health pests and wildlife management. In other words everything from rats, mice, fleas and bedbuges to squirrels, rabbits foxes and mink and everything in-between. I recently had to trap a fox underneath a customer's shed. I caught it and released it in a carefully chosen site where I thought it would survive but would cause little damage in the area. It was one of this year's cubs. Sadly the gamekeeper/hunter mentality can't think beyond "this species is a pest so it must be killed". As I said wildlife management is a balance which sometimes requires the use of a brain instead of a bullet. you realesed it to do what?...eat ice cream? make a living selling time shares?...or cause problems for others?...what do you do with the rats and fleas? re train em as lolipop men?...f**k me is it me or what? but i would expect my pest exterminators to... well kill them pests but no in this day and age we "release vermin in a carefully chosen site"...yeah for someone else to have to kill them...jesus is this modern pest contorl?...if bullets was brains you wouldnt have enough shot to blow your fringe to one side...your in the wrong job mate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldNog 432 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Im not refering to the feeding of cubs, id do it if i had a litter close, but some things said here are f*****g daft things to be sayng "exterminate them" "Trap them and let the dogs run them on a golf course" f**k a duck. Sites full of f*****g cowboys and retards dont tie me in with those other quotes........vermin should be exterminated...fact and your one of the cowboys i mentioned If foxes are in plague proportions where you are then kill away, killing for killing sake just because you can aint 'management' in any shape or form. no offence my man but you are talking shit...if left un-checked a fox will breed and breed the offspring will move out from the area causing problems where ever they end up...they spread disease cause all manner of problems with those that keep livestock,pheasant shoots, poultry even sheep and pidgeons...they are vermin and need to be controlled we have all seen the damage they can do...suprises me some are willing to feed and encourage them...to me thats f****n daft! No need to be preaching to me i aint no fool. I know full well what damage foxes can do, i used to work on a 6,000 acre commercial pheasant and duck shoot for my sins, so have plenty of experieince in what foxes can and cant do. I would get rid of each fox i saw on my ground, yet on my own permission id let each fox go because they aint causing no grief. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zig zag wanderer 0 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 All public health pests are killed, moles and rabbits are killed, squirrels are killed. Foxes if healthy and I decide that it is fair to release them will be released. As I say they are not vermin by default, they are indigenous wildlife. A fox under a shed is not the same as a fox in pheasant rearing wood. So what is your trade AKA BRINDLE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Im not refering to the feeding of cubs, id do it if i had a litter close, but some things said here are f*****g daft things to be sayng "exterminate them" "Trap them and let the dogs run them on a golf course" f**k a duck. Sites full of f*****g cowboys and retards dont tie me in with those other quotes........vermin should be exterminated...fact and your one of the cowboys i mentioned If foxes are in plague proportions where you are then kill away, killing for killing sake just because you can aint 'management' in any shape or form. no offence my man but you are talking shit...if left un-checked a fox will breed and breed the offspring will move out from the area causing problems where ever they end up...they spread disease cause all manner of problems with those that keep livestock,pheasant shoots, poultry even sheep and pidgeons...they are vermin and need to be controlled we have all seen the damage they can do...suprises me some are willing to feed and encourage them...to me thats f****n daft! No need to be preaching to me i aint no fool. I know full well what damage foxes can do, i used to work on a 6,000 acre commercial pheasant and duck shoot for my sins, so have plenty of experieince in what foxes can and cant do. I would get rid of each fox i saw on my ground, yet on my own permission id let each fox go because they aint causing no grief. Not preaching mate...but "let each fox go because they aint causing no grief".again your talking shit...wouldnt want you looking after no 6000 acre shoot a mine....if i had one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest foxyjo. Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So what is your trade AKA BRINDLE? I think he's a dalek...he seems to have an unhealthy obsession with "extermination"...foxes in his part of the country are investing in a community tardis. Zig Zag - you can be the doctor!!!!! Jeez...sometimes I frighten myself I'm so good.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lurchers&terriers Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 why kill them? some people think hunting is all about killing anything they can get there hands on. just leave them unless they become a pest. no need to feed them though neither Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher lass 9 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 once again what started out as an interesting read and a chance for everyone to kindly state your veiws but there is always one who reckons their too big for common sence and politness as foxyjo kindly pointed out i said it depended on the situation rather then shoot everything that moves with regards to wildlife management i wouldn't have you any where near my land for "pest control" as you seem to veiw this as pest destroy when you wish to discuss any topic like a mature adult i will be prepared to listen, while however your the one speaking nosense i wont waste my time on you, by all means don't agree but put your veiws accross in a different way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 All public health pests are killed, moles and rabbits are killed, squirrels are killed. Foxes if healthy and I decide that it is fair to release them will be released. As I say they are not vermin by default, they are indigenous wildlife. A fox under a shed is not the same as a fox in pheasant rearing wood. So what is your trade AKA BRINDLE? the flea is INDIGENOUS... still a pest!...a fox under a shed could easily become a fox in a 'pheasent rearing wood' if you had your way I respect what I hunt...i also understand it too...but reading this thread some obviously dont! I am a painting and decorating contractor whatever relavence that has i dont know?....sounds like i have a better understanding of my trade than some do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest foxyjo. Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 ....sounds like i have a better understanding of my trade than some do Ahhh-Haaaa!!!!! That's sorted it!! Sorry Aka Brindle, I thought we were discussing feeding cubs - you're talking about painting and decorating! You're right pet - haven't a bloody clue!!! What the hell would we pest controllers/hunt servants know? And what right have we to an opinion??? SHUT UP EVERYONE!!! Aka's going to bore into your skull with his opinion and thoughts whilst papering the countryside in woodchip. I do hope you've brought your santising gel though - this rural place is hellish mucky, there's fleas and mud and all sorts...(and I think it's indigenous... ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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