CAN YOU DO BOTH ???

[Sully 3]

Hello, Im awaiting the arrival of my Hancock pup (Nxt Sunday) Im interested to know your thoughts, is it possible to have a dog which will bush and hunt up using it's nose in the day, and lamp at night, tell you why, our last lurcher who recently died (14Yrs) we got from an animal centre, and got her at about a Yr old, anyway she was a pet but I did a bit with her, she was mustard at hunting up, and quite good on the lamp, but the problem with her was if she missed on the lamp, she'd switch to her day time instinct to hunt up, she'd always come back after putting everything to ground in the field, so with the right training will my dog be able to tell the difference between hunting up during the day, and returning back to me when on the lamp if she's missed, or am I better off concenrate on one and train her accordingly ? your thoughts are appreciated,

Craig

Edited June 13, 2009 by Sully

[Sully 3]

Is this a silly question or are you all being bashfull and shy ?

[riohog 5,729]

bashfull and shy

 

 

and yes it is a sill question

[doga 50]

yes you can as you say with the right training have a day and night dog.some dogs are easier trained than others as in breeds but im sure all can do it,why not.

[fireman 10,992]

I had a hancock dog and he'd hunt like a spaniel during the day,quartering the ground and using his nose like a trooper.During the night on the lamp he was as fast back in as he was going out,had him so i could send him out 200 odd yards on a hiss from me to a squatter,if he didn't see it he'd run for a bit stop and take a look at me,another hiss would send him on his way again until he'd see it himself,this i could do in the daytime as well.So with a bit of time spent with your dog yes mate you can do both and those who say otherwise are usally failed dog trainers themselves as if i can do it then most folks sure as well can.

[riohog 5,729]

ye ok if you put the time in im sure youl get the results you want good luck

[Scallywag 78]

I'm a beginner at lamping so may be put right, but on advice I'm training my dog to come back to me as soon as I point the lamp straight down or turn it off. That way I can get him back after he's missed or for any other reason, without noise or fuss

If you can get your hancock to do this presumably it'll stop him hunting up when he should be coming in.

[storm323 191]

with the recall training 100% i dont see why this should be a problem good luck and what way is your hancock bread then mate

[cocker 2,654]

i have a first cross border collie X greyhound, rabbitin dog, which i have had since she was born, she works 100% perfect in any daytime situation, on rabbits, and 100% whilst lamping rabbits, i can not fault her, so yes it can definatley be done, she is 8 years old now, and she has never been any problem.

cocker

[Sully 3]

Thanks for your advice fella's, she's bred from Flicker, which is a big blue GH dam and John Dog which I think is 3/4 beardie and 1/4 gh Sire Im really looking forward to starting training her as Ive heard they are so eager to learn, as I said my first lurcher was a fluke never intended to hunt with dogs til we got her from the PDSA, then got hooked, after the first lurcher wouldnt want any other dog, I'll be on here often asking advice from all you experienced lurcher men....and women, thanks

Craig

[storm323 191]

Thanks for your advice fella's, she's bred from Flicker, which is a big blue GH dam and John Dog which I think is 3/4 beardie and 1/4 gh Sire Im really looking forward to starting training her as Ive heard they are so eager to learn, as I said my first lurcher was a fluke never intended to hunt with dogs til we got her from the PDSA, then got hooked, after the first lurcher wouldnt want any other dog, I'll be on here often asking advice from all you experienced lurcher men....and women, thanks

Craig

john dog is a 5/8 collie 3/8 greyhound reverse cross with beardie border mix so im told i had a sister to this dog but bread later on a remating.I think the cross your going for should be an excellent allrounder and should be eiger to learn good luck with it butty

[cúagusgiorraí 57]

yes it's possible, but the key to it all is good recall. A recall that will get the dog back to your side, even if there is a rabbit sitting in front of him. It takes practice and patience.

Let the dog know when it is time to hunt up as well. I use the command "Go on!" for hunting up, and gesture with my hand whereabouts I want him to go. Once he on the scent, he's off like a rocket, but I can still call him back.

[Sully 3]

Great advice, thanks fella's your quite right the word I was looking for is allrounder ! du think this cross should have a good nose ? gonna put alot of time into the initial training, retrieving is a must for me as I dont want to be chasing a dog across a field to depatch it's quarry, Im hoping that the breeding of it will make it eager and quick to learn....think the phrase is biddable !

[storm323 191]

well i dont see why it shouldent have a bad nose my old bitch had an allrite nose but neva really tested her and her daughter the dog i have naw has a good nose to.from past exprience witch aint much i wouldent over do it with retrieveing it easy to do and try and mix it up as much as possible.they should be eager to learn but as most dogs you just need to keep on top of them.good luck with the pup and get a picture up when you get it

[Sully 3]

Hi Storm, thanks for your interest, I will do ...when I learn how to upload piccys that is ! finding the re-sizing an issue at mo, she's a lil cracker, as Ive stated on another post she is primarrilly a pet, but will have many hours hunting with me, like me and me last gal did, died recently after 14 great Years, totally gutted but feeling bit better now down to time I think, they say times a great healer, and it is