tommydeer 2 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 It is a red-sorry, stupid me, I should think before I type! When the antlers appear to have outriggers (the dropped tines) it often means it has wapiti traits. Most of the biggest stags in the world have wapiti traits in there blood somewhere. Not too long ago a stag was dna tested to have 22% wapiti in it, the last wapiti on that ground was shot in 1914 so it gives you an idea of how long it would take to breed out......a very long time! With regards to peoples opinion on heads being ugly, i completely agree, some are. Though some are not, you CAN get big pretty heads, At the end of the day if you took stags off the hill in Scotland, put them into Hampshire on good ground and fed them well in winter, culled them accordingly for 15 years you would have a british record for a wild stag. Quote Link to post
kingkeeper21 2 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 feck dragging that up the hill. Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 is that stagged stuffed? beautiful head. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I think i am right in saying the Wapiti (Elk in USA) and the Red are practically the same deer, just many generations of isolation from each other has changed them somewhat.....the truely symetrical six pointers in the US are some animal. Quote Link to post
tommydeer 2 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) I think i am right in saying the Wapiti (Elk in USA) and the Red are practically the same deer, just many generations of isolation from each other has changed them somewhat.....the truely symetrical six pointers in the US are some animal. Many many many generations apart. The Wapiti x Red is used throughout NZ to increase bodyweights for their carcases. The photo beneath is of 1 red calf and 5 wapiti calves. It gives you an idea of the size difference. When you see a Wapiti Bull running with red hinds it almost looks cruel, theyre a huge great animal, but its no different than putting a belgian blue onto an aberdeen angus cow Ive got some good photos of Wapiti but unfortunately not on the computer, i'll see what i can do though Edited June 12, 2009 by tommydeer Quote Link to post
tommydeer 2 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Couple of photos of photos so sorry about the quality but gives you an idea of the size difference. Quote Link to post
tommydeer 2 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Wapiti bull with red hinds in handling system Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Tommy, thanks for the great pics mate. Some of those world record Wapiti are something else!!! There was one in a browning advert some years ago now that was a real monster!! Quote Link to post
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