FUJI 17,148 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Racing greyhounds is a hobby. racing whippets is a hobby. racing pidgeons is a hobby. The list goes on and on. So because these are sold and not gifted they are peddlers. I think not. I was brought up on the assumption that if you wanted something you paid for it. Couldn't of put it better myself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So because i prefer to buy something rather than have it gifted i am accused of tryin to buy success. What a fcukin stupid statement. I own 2 bitches and if i want to breed them i will. Why should i have a bunch of blokes tell me what i should or shouldnt do. If i want to sell them i will. if i want to gift them i will. So at the end of the day does that make me a peddler. I think not. No doubt Wilf and his little clique will have summat to say lol. Do what you like mate i couldnt give a bollock....but in my opinion its not the way to go through working dogs.....ok you sell pups out of your " average " bitch because ....." you wanted to ".......no that dont make you a peddlar.....someone else buys a pup from that and has the same attitude as you and does the same......over 4 generations of that attitude are you honestly going to tell me that the quality of those " working dogs " wont have gone down ? In this game " you get what you pay for " just doesnt apply........if it did id have the greatest dogs in the world !.....any dog you buy is a dog another man didnt want .....truth or lie ?.....kind of explains itself dont it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So because i prefer to buy something rather than have it gifted i am accused of tryin to buy success. What a fcukin stupid statement. I own 2 bitches and if i want to breed them i will. Why should i have a bunch of blokes tell me what i should or shouldnt do. If i want to sell them i will. if i want to gift them i will. So at the end of the day does that make me a peddler. I think not. No doubt Wilf and his little clique will have summat to say lol. Do what you like mate i couldnt give a bollock....but in my opinion its not the way to go through working dogs.....ok you sell pups out of your " average " bitch because ....." you wanted to ".......no that dont make you a peddlar.....someone else buys a pup from that and has the same attitude as you and does the same......over 4 generations of that attitude are you honestly going to tell me that the quality of those " working dogs " wont have gone down ? In this game " you get what you pay for " just doesnt apply........if it did id have the greatest dogs in the world !.....any dog you buy is a dog another man didnt want .....truth or lie ?.....kind of explains itself dont it. Lie!... last pup i had was offerd as a gift but i payed for!.......................wasnt you offering dogs and pups for sale on this very board a few years back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So because i prefer to buy something rather than have it gifted i am accused of tryin to buy success. What a fcukin stupid statement. I own 2 bitches and if i want to breed them i will. Why should i have a bunch of blokes tell me what i should or shouldnt do. If i want to sell them i will. if i want to gift them i will. So at the end of the day does that make me a peddler. I think not. No doubt Wilf and his little clique will have summat to say lol. Do what you like mate i couldnt give a bollock....but in my opinion its not the way to go through working dogs.....ok you sell pups out of your " average " bitch because ....." you wanted to ".......no that dont make you a peddlar.....someone else buys a pup from that and has the same attitude as you and does the same......over 4 generations of that attitude are you honestly going to tell me that the quality of those " working dogs " wont have gone down ? In this game " you get what you pay for " just doesnt apply........if it did id have the greatest dogs in the world !.....any dog you buy is a dog another man didnt want .....truth or lie ?.....kind of explains itself dont it. Did i say my bitch was average. no i didnt. If it was average it wouldnt be here. If i bred her it wouldnt be to an average dog either. trouble with people like you mate is that if other folk dont agree with you then they are wrong. I aint a muppet mate and have a fair idea of whats average and whats not. Because i dont bow down to big names and certain cliques then i dont know what im on about. This site is becoming a site of arse lickers and hypocrites imo. atb stabba Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FUJI 17,148 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Just as an example: Sheikh Mohammed buys many of the "best bred" yearlings when they are up for sale..he's not only very rich he's a realist and knows fine well that not all are going to reach the standard of their parents BUT not only is he a realist he lives in hope that maybe just one or if he's extremely lucky more of his purchases will do just that,he doesn't go to the yearling sales and buy or accept gifts of "moderate" yearlings bred from "moderate" horses,he only wants horses which are bred in the purple as it is they that are more likely to become champions .Many of the top "match" dogs are bred from "well bred proven parents" as in all walks of life that won't always be the case BUT imo it helps and at the end of the day many of best things in life are NOT for free ,no we ain't Sheikh Mohammed but the principle is the same,if you want a better chance of getting a good un then you may have to dip into your hard earned if it's quality that your after and i'm sure we'd all rather have that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Did i say my bitch was average. no i didnt. If it was average it wouldnt be here. If i bred her it wouldnt be to an average dog either. trouble with people like you mate is that if other folk dont agree with you then they are wrong. I aint a muppet mate and have a fair idea of whats average and whats not. Because i dont bow down to big names and certain cliques then i dont know what im on about. This site is becoming a site of arse lickers and hypocrites imo. atb stabba Well lets hope everyone you sell a pup to has the same high standards you do....or wait,is 1 mans 200 quid better than another mans and you will strictly interview all potential customers An arse licker im certainly not......my opinion wouldnt be my opinion if i thought you was right and i was wrong.....all men will rightly do as they see fit...........i dont agree with your way and this is a forum to discuss such matters is it not theres no need to get all menstrual and defensive about it ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Just as an example: Sheikh Mohammed buys many of the "best bred" yearlings when they are up for sale..he's not only very rich he's a realist and knows fine well that not all are going to reach the standard of their parents BUT not only is he a realist he lives in hope that maybe just one or if he's extremely lucky more of his purchases will do just that,he doesn't go to the yearling sales and buy or accept gifts of "moderate" yearlings bred from "moderate" horses,he only wants horses which are bred in the purple as it is they that are more likely to become champions .Many of the top "match" dogs are bred from "well bred proven parents" as in all walks of life that won't always be the case BUT imo it helps and at the end of the day many of best things in life are NOT for free ,no we ain't Sheikh Mohammed but the principle is the same,if you want a better chance of getting a good un then you may have to dip into your hard earned if it's quality that your after and i'm sure we'd all rather have that? [/quoteyeah mate. But according to some, if you buy owt decent you are just fuelling the fire of puppy peddlers lol. Please will somebody breed a world beater and gift it to me because god forbid if i pay you for it then your name will be mud. Or puppy peddler, whichever you prefer lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Thats it lads!!! you have just hit the nail on the head many many times there! ...but this thread was never really about the truth was it? more about certain chaps havin a dig at other fellas and theres yous bringing the 'truth' into it ....enjoyed that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 [quote name='AKA-BRINDLE' date='Jun 13 2009, 11:10 PM' post='1099458 Lie!... last pup i had was offerd as a gift but i payed for!.......................wasnt you offering dogs and pups for sale on this very board a few years back? Was the pup up for sale ? no......no point trying to get me on technicalities mate if a pup is up for sale its because the owner doesnt want it....FACT. Now....out of over 1000 posts over several years i have had 1 post concerning dogs for sale ( on a former friends behalf who spoke no english ).....and you remember it !!!!!... ok i know you love me i just didnt realise how much....im touched Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 made me chuckle that...but seriously...once you've smelt bullshit...you allways remember it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Just as an example: Sheikh Mohammed buys many of the "best bred" yearlings when they are up for sale..he's not only very rich he's a realist and knows fine well that not all are going to reach the standard of their parents BUT not only is he a realist he lives in hope that maybe just one or if he's extremely lucky more of his purchases will do just that,he doesn't go to the yearling sales and buy or accept gifts of "moderate" yearlings bred from "moderate" horses,he only wants horses which are bred in the purple as it is they that are more likely to become champions .Many of the top "match" dogs are bred from "well bred proven parents" as in all walks of life that won't always be the case BUT imo it helps and at the end of the day many of best things in life are NOT for free ,no we ain't Sheikh Mohammed but the principle is the same,if you want a better chance of getting a good un then you may have to dip into your hard earned if it's quality that your after and i'm sure we'd all rather have that? [/quoteyeah mate. But according to some, if you buy owt decent you are just fuelling the fire of puppy peddlers lol. Please will somebody breed a world beater and gift it to me because god forbid if i pay you for it then your name will be mud. Or puppy peddler, whichever you prefer lol Why dont you have a look towards the poorer countries of south america.....uraguay,chile,paraguay,mexico etc etc.......the home of some of the best " match dogs " currently active worldwide.......many of these people can barely support their families, the sport of matching dogs is not even illegal on the basis that people are more worried about where there next meal is coming from than worrying about a few dogs fighting.......these people can and could sell their dogs for absolute top dollar.......and they dont.......is it mere coincidence therefore that they possess some of the most honest true bred exceptional sporting dogs in the world ? or is it the fact that they are so " into " their dogs that no money can buy them and rightly or wrongly they become just as high value as family.....which they wont sell either. Yes,mr mohammed or mr abramovich could come along and offer them the earth and they will have no sensible alternative other than to accept....but in the realistic confines of normal life it has not and wont happen......when you get through a few generations of this type of human honesty and obssession you tend to get some pretty decent dogs...........its called character,something your average puppy peddlar doesnt have much of ! But lets not confuse a genuine dog sale with a dog/puppy peddlar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 In my book advertising for a friend is just as bad as advertising for yourself. If you were against the sale of working dogs so much you would have refused to advertise for him. Double standards mate imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 made me chuckle that...but seriously...once you've smelt bullshit...you allways remember it One mans truth is another mans bullshit....some people hear the truth they call it bullshit.......others admit it.......some even spend their life crying about it........it takes all sorts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) In my book advertising for a friend is just as bad as advertising for yourself. If you were against the sale of working dogs so much you would have refused to advertise for him. Double standards mate imo. Yes i cant argue.....i like to think im a decent person and admit wrongdoing i can do......it was a mistake i made and never repeated it ( 2 puppies incidentally,but 2 too many ) hence you will note ( former friend )......but 1 wrongdoing out of near 30 years around these 4 legged friends of ours i can live with......but yes,double standards it was and i was wrong,accepted. Edited June 13, 2009 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 In my book advertising for a friend is just as bad as advertising for yourself. If you were against the sale of working dogs so much you would have refused to advertise for him. Double standards mate imo. Yes i cant argue.....i like to think im a decent person and admit wrongdoing i can do......it was a mistake i made and never repeated it ( 2 puppies incidentally,but 2 too many ) hence you will note ( former friend )......but 1 wrongdoing out of near 30 years around these 4 legged friends of ours i can live with......but yes,double standards it was and i was wrong,accepted. nice 1 mate. it takes a good man to admit he was wrong and i applaud you for it. atb stabba. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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