Leave it to someone who can

[johnbhoy 1]

nobody sells or gives away a good dog

 

atb

[matty73 4]

will any of these super dogs your talking about be in lamping competition test nature versus nurture .as for general attitude towards working dogs for most they are objects of status ,currency or passing whim rather than a partnership with a good strong bond its a culmination of all things that make a good dog not one or the other and ill let you all in on a little secret the perfect dog doesnt exist .some people will never have a good dog as long as they have a hole in there arse not because of the dogs they buy but because of their own shortcomings most couldnt train a fish to swim but hey just my opinion what do i know

Edited June 8, 2009 by matty73

[winnie 1]

Having read through this thread and seen some other posts there can be only one conclusion.

Undisputed is a grade A tit.

 

Never given up on a dog, never got rid of a dog, can train anything to do the job what utter pish!!

 

You must have owned about 4 dogs or have a kennel full like a dogs home.

[Catcher 1 639]

will any of these super dogs your talking about be in lamping competition test nature versus nurture .as for general attitude towards working dogs for most they are objects of status ,currency or passing whim rather than a partnership with a good strong bond its a culmination of all things that make a good dog not one or the other and ill let you all in on a little secret the perfect dog doesnt exist .some people will never have a good dog as long as they have a hole in there arse not because of the dogs they buy but because of their own shortcomings most couldnt train a fish to swim but hey just my opinion what do i know

 

 

HI mate The perfect dog may not exist got near it 1992/1996.atb. Catcher 1

[Catcher 1 639]

sarcasm when things dont go your way i must have touched the bone with my post. my high standards are no yapping no jacking no easing off if the quarry looks to be getting away if anything the dog should try harder give it a last ditch attempt to catch it before it hits cover some dogs ease off and stuff gets away that might not have done with a keener dog. it has to have a high catch rate dogs that run 50/50 are no good same with those that blow hot and cold good one night half hearted the next. it needs to have stamina and determination so it can be worked 5 days a week if weather conditions are right with 2 rest days. it has to be able to do this for 6-8 seasons thats if injury doesnt cut it short. its got to be brainy and biddable but able to use its own head to make decisions. my lurchers are all reared well they get a lot of time attention training and best of feeding but once u take them on the field its down to the dog some are better than others once u have a great dog u cant go back to anything less it sets the bench mark. better to have an empty kennel than keep shite. have fun polishing your turds you arent able to discuss things without being crabby so like your pal catcher says "leave it to someone who can"

ps who is wilfy?

 

 

Aye I guess I was being sarcastic but I object to being called crabby I have a very sunny disposition for a man my age and condition You havn't touched a bone at all with your comments, water of a ducks back to me mate. Give it out expect it back its only the internet afterall, for all you know I could be an 95yr old granny with a one legged poodle winding you up. Anyways my dogs didn't yapp, jack or ease of quarry with a good catch rate does that mean I'm in the top 5% of guys with high standards?.....Your a lucky man if you can work your dog 5 days a week for up to 8 seasons....I dont think there's many in here or out there who do that unless they make a living from it or have a few dogs at their disposal...or hold on to them as long as that I guess a lot of what we're arguing about is subjective anyway and depends on what access you have to quarry....In terms of setting benchmarks for your dog there's nowt wrong with that but it dont make your new dog any worse if it dont come up to the same standards different things go into making a good dog and a dog should be judged on it's own merits not one that came before it....Wilfy is a god!

 

 

Wise words undisputed.A dog should be judged on its on merits.atb. Catcher 1

[WILF 46,986]

Well then, whats your anwser........yes or no?

[MOO 730]

Keano just answer the question and maybe the other of the 3 amigos that share the same views as you .

Would you breed 2 average terriers or lurchers and with the correct training and entering expect to produce decent grafters???????????????????

[WILF 46,986]

When you and your pals got your terriers, did you consider the breeding and what the parents had done before you got them Keano?

Or did you just get anything and raise it right and lo and behold, they worked to a high standard?

 

And I am not trying to be a clever c*nt, because I have paid money for dogs and not had a decent one out of them.

[weasle 1,119]

TBH.I always thought breeding was about best available to best available. Every body's differant so when you buy a pup its up to you to ask the right guestions to see if the breeder wants his dog to do the same as you need.course you cannot train a dog to go to ground or a dog to do 5 out of 5. But the best breed dogs can and are ruined through incorrect entering, or without being given a chance, not all are natural's some need time. Best horsemen .dog men. hound men know there is no secret formula every animals differant.its up to you to get the best out of it.only them can you judge what you have too many just give up.

[jackarmstrong 4]

Hi all.I am sorry if this may affend some people.(But) I am sick hearing how dogs dont meet some peoples needs and have to go.Owners should know there needs before they take a dog on.Think about what you require of the dog before you get it.Ask youself how much time you are willing to put into it.Training Bonding,Working the dog,Kennels.I could go on .Some owners give up far to soon.They are not willing to put the time and effort into the dog to get the best out of it.Then start crying the dogs no good will have to go.You can spot them easy.The dog is most litely under two years old.Anouther thing at what age do you deside the dog is no good for your needs ? I am not haveing a go at everyone .Far from it.We all know who puts in the efford.In my area i know about twentyfive dog men out of them i would say four are for real.So if you cant pick or train a dog to meet your needs .Leave it to someone who can. Catcher 1

i agree pal, most round my way are the same.Get the dog leave it in the kennel until they feel like going out then when they take it out and it doesnt catch anything or do anything at all they sell it on, what i dont get is how do you expect a dog to be good enough when is not getting took out on a regular basis, and has had barely any practise or time to show what its capable of.People dont get th fact that all dogs are different mature at different times start picking up at different times,some dogs take years. Its just a waiting game.

 

atb

 

J.A

[Catcher 1 639]

Hi all.I am sorry if this may affend some people.(But) I am sick hearing how dogs dont meet some peoples needs and have to go.Owners should know there needs before they take a dog on.Think about what you require of the dog before you get it.Ask youself how much time you are willing to put into it.Training Bonding,Working the dog,Kennels.I could go on .Some owners give up far to soon.They are not willing to put the time and effort into the dog to get the best out of it.Then start crying the dogs no good will have to go.You can spot them easy.The dog is most litely under two years old.Anouther thing at what age do you deside the dog is no good for your needs ? I am not haveing a go at everyone .Far from it.We all know who puts in the efford.In my area i know about twentyfive dog men out of them i would say four are for real.So if you cant pick or train a dog to meet your needs .Leave it to someone who can. Catcher 1

i agree pal, most round my way are the same.Get the dog leave it in the kennel until they feel like going out then when they take it out and it doesnt catch anything or do anything at all they sell it on, what i dont get is how do you expect a dog to be good enough when is not getting took out on a regular basis, and has had barely any practise or time to show what its capable of.People dont get th fact that all dogs are different mature at different times start picking up at different times,some dogs take years. Its just a waiting game.

 

atb

 

J.A

 

 

Wise words.Thanks for your input mate.atb. Catcher 1

[Catcher 1 639]

TBH.I always thought breeding was about best available to best available. Every body's differant so when you buy a pup its up to you to ask the right guestions to see if the breeder wants his dog to do the same as you need.course you cannot train a dog to go to ground or a dog to do 5 out of 5. But the best breed dogs can and are ruined through incorrect entering, or without being given a chance, not all are natural's some need time. Best horsemen .dog men. hound men know there is no secret formula every animals differant.its up to you to get the best out of it.only them can you judge what you have too many just give up.

 

 

Agree to many give up far to soon.No will power or dont have the knowall to get the best out of the dog ? Maybe shoud have named the Topic is your dog smarter than you.

[Catcher 1 639]

When you and your pals got your terriers, did you consider the breeding and what the parents had done before you got them Keano?

Or did you just get anything and raise it right and lo and behold, they worked to a high standard?

 

And I am not trying to be a clever c*nt, because I have paid money for dogs and not had a decent one out of them.

 

 

Hi WILF.Good to see you back mate.I see Keanos Topic has strayed onto mine.This is one man you cant slag about terriers.Any one who knows Keano dosent have to ask about his standards as he has proven himself on and off the feild.atb. Catcher 1

[WILF 46,986]

Hi WILF.Good to see you back mate.I see Keanos Topic has strayed onto mine.This is one man you cant slag about terriers.Any one who knows Keano dosent have to ask about his standards as he has proven himself on and off the feild.atb. Catcher 1

 

Wasnt slagging the man or his dogs at all Catcher, we have been having the criac by pm and he knows its nothing personal...........just asking a simple question that should have a simple anwser

[Catcher 1 639]

Hi WILF.Good to see you back mate.I see Keanos Topic has strayed onto mine.This is one man you cant slag about terriers.Any one who knows Keano dosent have to ask about his standards as he has proven himself on and off the feild.atb. Catcher 1

 

Wasnt slagging the man or his dogs at all Catcher, we have been having the criac by pm and he knows its nothing personal...........just asking a simple question that should have a simple anwser

 

 

Just seen it had strayed onto my Topic mate.atb. Catcher 1