choice of two rifles

[crumblyned 0]

Sorry to be a pain in the proverbial BUTT, I need some more advice please

 

I have the choice of the Tikka t3 varmint or the Remington 700 vss kevlar varmint (both new and in 308)

 

I would like your comments on the better rifle of the two Thanks Ned

Edited June 4, 2009 by crumblyned

[Mr_Logic 5]

What's the length of barrel on that Tikka?

[arveyboy 0]

i'm guessing you want the varmint barrel for targets. the remington offers more customisation in future which could get you a fantastic shooting target rifle if you throw some money at it. however i've heard that tikkas are always great shooters straight out of the box whereas some remmy's arent so good. depends how much money you want to put into it i spose

[crumblyned 0]

What's the length of barrel on that Tikka?

 

20" inch

[Mr_Logic 5]

OK. This leaves you with a dilemma. I note from your other thread this is for foxes, deer and targets in the future.

 

Therein lies the problem. Foxes and deer = shorter barrel for balance with a moderator and light weight. Targets = longer barrel for powder burn & better velocity.

 

Now, there are some sites on the web which suggest 308 doesn't get affected by a longer barrel, but the F/TR boys shoot 30-inch, and they get better velocity than I can from my 26", so it's got to matter somewhere!

 

For target work, unless you're buying a rifle which is a specific target rifle (generally custom anyway) then I've basically gone with the adage that "Look into other rifles besides a Remington, prefer something else, and then buy the Remington anyway." Reason is pretty simple - every time you find something on a Remy you don't like, you can fix it. Costs you more in the long run for sure, but you end up with a rifle closer to what you actually want.

 

Out of the box, a Remington is reliable and accurate (unless faulty, in which case you're dealing with Edgar Brothers, probably the best importer in the UK). You can customise until you're happy, or you can leave it alone - it'll still shoot well.

 

So I'd get the Remington IF you're serious about shooting targets. Otherwise, the 20-inch barreled Tikka is going to win for the stalking.

 

For the record, the best way to do this is with two rifles, a light one for stalking, where you don't need a heavy barrel, and a different rifle for target, where you do.

[crumblyned 0]

OK. This leaves you with a dilemma. I note from your other thread this is for foxes, deer and targets in the future.

 

Therein lies the problem. Foxes and deer = shorter barrel for balance with a moderator and light weight. Targets = longer barrel for powder burn & better velocity.

 

Now, there are some sites on the web which suggest 308 doesn't get affected by a longer barrel, but the F/TR boys shoot 30-inch, and they get better velocity than I can from my 26", so it's got to matter somewhere!

 

For target work, unless you're buying a rifle which is a specific target rifle (generally custom anyway) then I've basically gone with the adage that "Look into other rifles besides a Remington, prefer something else, and then buy the Remington anyway." Reason is pretty simple - every time you find something on a Remy you don't like, you can fix it. Costs you more in the long run for sure, but you end up with a rifle closer to what you actually want.

 

Out of the box, a Remington is reliable and accurate (unless faulty, in which case you're dealing with Edgar Brothers, probably the best importer in the UK). You can customise until you're happy, or you can leave it alone - it'll still shoot well.

 

So I'd get the Remington IF you're serious about shooting targets. Otherwise, the 20-inch barreled Tikka is going to win for the stalking.

 

For the record, the best way to do this is with two rifles, a light one for stalking, where you don't need a heavy barrel, and a different rifle for target, where you do.

 

 

Thanks for the advice Mr. Logic, I understand and agree with what you say. And if it was just me to please I would have the two rifles but alas I have a budget and she is more savvy these days, the old one of telling her it cost £300-00 less than it did doesn’t wash no more. Ned

[SNAP SHOT 194]

OK. This leaves you with a dilemma. I note from your other thread this is for foxes, deer and targets in the future.

 

Therein lies the problem. Foxes and deer = shorter barrel for balance with a moderator and light weight. Targets = longer barrel for powder burn & better velocity.

 

Now, there are some sites on the web which suggest 308 doesn't get affected by a longer barrel, but the F/TR boys shoot 30-inch, and they get better velocity than I can from my 26", so it's got to matter somewhere!

 

For target work, unless you're buying a rifle which is a specific target rifle (generally custom anyway) then I've basically gone with the adage that "Look into other rifles besides a Remington, prefer something else, and then buy the Remington anyway." Reason is pretty simple - every time you find something on a Remy you don't like, you can fix it. Costs you more in the long run for sure, but you end up with a rifle closer to what you actually want.

 

Out of the box, a Remington is reliable and accurate (unless faulty, in which case you're dealing with Edgar Brothers, probably the best importer in the UK). You can customise until you're happy, or you can leave it alone - it'll still shoot well.

 

So I'd get the Remington IF you're serious about shooting targets. Otherwise, the 20-inch barreled Tikka is going to win for the stalking.

 

For the record, the best way to do this is with two rifles, a light one for stalking, where you don't need a heavy barrel, and a different rifle for target, where you do.

 

 

Thanks for the advice Mr. Logic, I understand and agree with what you say. And if it was just me to please I would have the two rifles but alas I have a budget and she is more savvy these days, the old one of telling her it cost £300-00 less than it did doesn’t wash no more. Ned

 

 

The only advice i can give bar the above is to ask yourself what will the rifle mainly be ised for if foxes, and deer mainly i'd go with the tikka

 

occasional target work still tikka, if your going to shoot more targets than foxes or deer get the remmy..

 

snap.

[cyclonebri1 8]

OK. This leaves you with a dilemma. I note from your other thread this is for foxes, deer and targets in the future.

 

Therein lies the problem. Foxes and deer = shorter barrel for balance with a moderator and light weight. Targets = longer barrel for powder burn & better velocity.

 

Now, there are some sites on the web which suggest 308 doesn't get affected by a longer barrel, but the F/TR boys shoot 30-inch, and they get better velocity than I can from my 26", so it's got to matter somewhere!

 

For target work, unless you're buying a rifle which is a specific target rifle (generally custom anyway) then I've basically gone with the adage that "Look into other rifles besides a Remington, prefer something else, and then buy the Remington anyway." Reason is pretty simple - every time you find something on a Remy you don't like, you can fix it. Costs you more in the long run for sure, but you end up with a rifle closer to what you actually want.

 

Out of the box, a Remington is reliable and accurate (unless faulty, in which case you're dealing with Edgar Brothers, probably the best importer in the UK). You can customise until you're happy, or you can leave it alone - it'll still shoot well.

 

So I'd get the Remington IF you're serious about shooting targets. Otherwise, the 20-inch barreled Tikka is going to win for the stalking.

 

For the record, the best way to do this is with two rifles, a light one for stalking, where you don't need a heavy barrel, and a different rifle for target, where you do.

 

 

Thanks for the advice Mr. Logic, I understand and agree with what you say. And if it was just me to please I would have the two rifles but alas I have a budget and she is more savvy these days, the old one of telling her it cost £300-00 less than it did doesn’t wash no more. Ned

 

Pay 1/2 cash and 1/2 on the card, show er indoors the card receipt Works for me

 

 

 

So far

[Mr_Logic 5]

LOL! My other half shoots, so she knows what stuff costs...

[flytie 1]

Pay 1/2 cash and 1/2 on the card, show er indoors the card receipt Works for me

So far

I wish I was that brave