jenksi87 3 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 before anybody starts pulling there hair out i am going to ask a simple question and a simple answer will be sufficient. sorry in advance if its already been asked. (which i bet it has) how much do you need to be spending on a .177 to cleanly drop a rabbit around the 40yard (providing youre a good enough shot) mark and what would the difference be with a .22, i.e. accuracy, clean kill rate e.t.c in relation to the kind of set up you could buy for the same amount. Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 beleive it or not bugger all diference in price... pcp you'll want about 300 ish minimum pus fill gear s/h.. what ever the make .177 or .22. in the old days .22's were about 10.5 fp's .177 about 9fp's so every one grew up with .22 is for hunting .177 for target. today theyre tunable to wat ever power. the energy in the pellet is calculated with an equation, the weight and the velosity... so heavier pellet means lower velosity, or lighter pellet equols higher velosity, so in .177 a heavey pellet doing about 706 feet per sec = 11.5 fp.. a mid weight about 800 fps.. a light 7.5 grain about 820 ish of top of my head. in .22 an AA feild doing what 600 fp = legal limit... a heavey one doing about 500 fps = legal limit so the same energy but a diferent caliber/pellet weight... both do the job. .177 is said to be easier to judge, but truth is its what you can judge best to get accuracy. Quote Link to post
coursing mad 5 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 around the 200 - 300 mark mate and my opinion is a small 22, mate. i paid 300 for my bsa ultra with scopes and it done the job for me mate atb tom!! Quote Link to post
jenksi87 3 Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 beleive it or not bugger all diference in price... pcp you'll want about 300 ish minimum pus fill gear s/h.. what ever the make .177 or .22. in the old days .22's were about 10.5 fp's .177 about 9fp's so every one grew up with .22 is for hunting .177 for target. today theyre tunable to wat ever power. the energy in the pellet is calculated with an equation, the weight and the velosity... so heavier pellet means lower velosity, or lighter pellet equols higher velosity, so in .177 a heavey pellet doing about 706 feet per sec = 11.5 fp.. a mid weight about 800 fps.. a light 7.5 grain about 820 ish of top of my head. in .22 an AA feild doing what 600 fp = legal limit... a heavey one doing about 500 fps = legal limit so the same energy but a diferent caliber/pellet weight... both do the job. .177 is said to be easier to judge, but truth is its what you can judge best to get accuracy. cheers mate. so basically i can spend the same amount on a .22 or .177 and expect roughly the same results? i have not shot with p.c.p before allthough i do fancy one i dont know wether it will be practical for me as i will be about 20mile away from a gun shop when i am using it so re-charging could be an issue. what about a c02 catridge gun? any good or not? Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 seccond hand springer in either calibre.....from £30 upwards, as long as its running between 10 and 12 ftlbs ITS ALL ABOUT SHOT PLACEMENT .......NOT CALIBRE. all the best sean Quote Link to post
Shooter08 0 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Buy a Pump Mate, It Might Set You Back Abit More, You Can Pick a New One Up For Around £100 Give Or Take a Few Quid, Mine Was £130 I Think I Payed For It! I Thought It Was Good In The Long Run Because The Nearest Gun Shop To Me Is About 20 Mile Aswell, Quote Link to post
jenksi87 3 Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 are the c02 guns no good then? Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 a diver shops better for bottle fills, vreathable air has no water or bits in it. dunt really mater with springers, .177 kicks slightly more but most ove the time the pellets left the barrel by then.. yu get used to what you shoot. Quote Link to post
coursing mad 5 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 a lad told me the other day a man he knew took his gun down to the local garage and filled it up with the quick fill pump he just screwed the end onto the end of the pump. tom!! Quote Link to post
brecon3 13 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 CO2 isnt that good mate it makes more noise and is more expencive to run pluse it wil lose power/ gain power in diferent heat conditions i belive that it something to do with the CO2 gas expanding in the cartridge hope that helps mate Quote Link to post
jenksi87 3 Posted June 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 ok lads thanks for the info Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 a lad told me the other day a man he knew took his gun down to the local garage and filled it up with the quick fill pump he just screwed the end onto the end of the pump. tom!! sorry mate not possible !!!!! if your talking about a pcp?? a garage compressor WILL NOT reach the required pressure. and this kind of stupidity SHOULD NOT be considered for any kind of air gun, under any circumstances!!!!!!! there are specific pumps and charging equipment for a reason. all the best sean Quote Link to post
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