dog fox 16 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) why is it easier that way? if the rule got removed then it has to go back through the courts and maybe lords to make another act up , if we remember it went through the lords 3 times and as the law states if an act dosnt get through in 3 attemps it gets thrown out compleatly ,thats why the slimey ba***rds made it stick on the third time and i dont think it was a fair court it just got pushed through as all the lords have to agree and i dont think they all did , for this reason i think they would rather let it all disapear instead of going through all that again Edited May 29, 2009 by dog fox Quote Link to post
Guest jt750 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 if it got over turned ,then things would go straight back to how it used to be ,its a lot harder to get a law wrote up on something ,but if it gets turned over at somepoint it goes straight back to how it was before the ban IMHO it will never go back to the way it was and rather find a difficult middle way which they tried and is unworkable they'll ban it altogether ..why because its easier that way why is it easier that way?your not a very positive thinker to say your on a hunting forum?weather it does or not ill always have my fingers x hoping it gets lifted no thinkin it will get ban altogether like yourself I'll tell you why i'm not positive ..after reading whats put up here and no doubt on other forums too then it seems to me whatever they do will make no difference to people because they'll just carry on as before.Why make something harder to enforce when if whats posted here and no doubt specialist terrier forums also to the detriment of all hunters everywhere. The law as it is is unworkable in the eyes of the law ..whats the alternative ? Ban it all together or keep it as it is. Whats the easiest opt out. Wildlife crime is on the increase in this country believe it or not as is cruelty to our domestic animals ..just read the recent cat threads ..it beggars belief. I long for the good old days but they'll never come back and with the minority of posters here posting sh1te its just arming the people who want it all banned the more.The chances of it getting repealed is less and less and the chances of terrier work being outlawed full stop is more and more. Quote Link to post
threbb 0 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 if it got over turned ,then things would go straight back to how it used to be ,its a lot harder to get a law wrote up on something ,but if it gets turned over at somepoint it goes straight back to how it was before the ban IMHO it will never go back to the way it was and rather find a difficult middle way which they tried and is unworkable they'll ban it altogether ..why because its easier that way Have you ever thought of being a bit more positive.I did once but it turned out to be shit. Quote Link to post
exmoocher 16 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 if it got over turned ,then things would go straight back to how it used to be ,its a lot harder to get a law wrote up on something ,but if it gets turned over at somepoint it goes straight back to how it was before the ban IMHO it will never go back to the way it was and rather find a difficult middle way which they tried and is unworkable they'll ban it altogether ..why because its easier that way Have you ever thought of being a bit more positive.I did once but it turned out to be shit. terrier work in the"premier league" has been illegal for almost forty years, has it stopped it? you tell me! there's loads more serious shit coming to the fore nowaday's, surely what we do has got to take a backwards step in priorities for old bill soon? Quote Link to post
threbb 0 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nothing positive yet, surely there must be someone on here more in the know. Hunting people are mostly twats on horseback who think little of terriers and lurchers.They only look to people like us when they are in the shit otherwise do you think they would organise a march to save lurcher and terrier work? We all need to let the C/A know that we will only accept all or nothing.Remember it was the BASC who saved terrier work last time not the C/A .A well known sausage dog breeder when he was a huntsman called terriers a neccesary evil,and thats how most of them think so beware. Quote Link to post
Guest donh Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 In my opinion the act will not be repeald but if it is then some other rubbish legislation would be put in its place and you can guarentee that it will favour the organised hunts as they have the highest profile, while we will probably loose out again. Just look at the legislation to get a tail docked legaly and imagine the hoops they would have us jumping through so we could legaly work our dogs, if not an outright ban. The countryside alliance would hail this as a victory and we would end up yet again with the shitty end of the stick. If anybody has any ideas on how we can come out of this better please tell me. Am I paranoid just because the whole world is out to get me All The Best Donh Quote Link to post
Guest jt750 Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Recent thread said the authorities are no longer going to pursue hunts ...seems like the huntsmen have their house in order for them to be left alone..Trouble with terrier men is that you are tarred with 2 brushes ...one is what you do legally which is galling in a lot of people eyes and 2 is the suspicion that you are doing illegal stuff with your terriers namely badgers ..why is that well i've been told from a very good source badger crime is on the increase the number of setts being disturbed is through the roof. This affects lurchermen too because of the large bull crosses still used on fox/deer and badger. The answer is to get our houses in order but at the end of the day can you see this .....No ..why ? because of the unruly element who just keep doing what they're doing regardless damaging the image of hunters further and further. We're in the sh1t up to our necks and every dodgy post put up here i believe is another step on our heads to our drowning completely Quote Link to post
red fell 0 Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Nothing positive yet, surely there must be someone on here more in the know. Hunting people are mostly twats on horseback who think little of terriers and lurchers.They only look to people like us when they are in the shit otherwise do you think they would organise a march to save lurcher and terrier work? We all need to let the C/A know that we will only accept all or nothing.Remember it was the BASC who saved terrier work last time not the C/A .A well known sausage dog breeder when he was a huntsman called terriers a neccesary evil,and thats how most of them think so beware. dont kid yourself BASC did english terrier men no favours that is why you can only use a terrier to protect game birds if defra had taken the NWTF consultation paper it could have been different BASC only helped shooting people and gamekeepers keep there terrier work legal Quote Link to post
Guest SUPERTED Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Recent thread said the authorities are no longer going to pursue hunts ...seems like the huntsmen have their house in order for them to be left alone..Trouble with terrier men is that you are tarred with 2 brushes ...one is what you do legally which is galling in a lot of people eyes and 2 is the suspicion that you are doing illegal stuff with your terriers namely badgers ..why is that well i've been told from a very good source badger crime is on the increase the number of setts being disturbed is through the roof. This affects lurchermen too because of the large bull crosses still used on fox/deer and badger. The answer is to get our houses in order but at the end of the day can you see this .....No ..why ? because of the unruly element who just keep doing what they're doing regardless damaging the image of hunters further and further. We're in the sh1t up to our necks and every dodgy post put up here i believe is another step on our heads to our drowning completely DO YOU OWN N WORK A DOG ? Quote Link to post
bullxryno 21 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 well i was reading in a paper not long ago that the consivertives got in that they would get rid of the hunting ban but they would still have the ban for deer!!! i only hope it is TRUE!! Quote Link to post
threbb 0 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 well i was reading in a paper not long ago that the consivertives got in that they would get rid of the hunting ban but they would still have the ban for deer!!! i only hope it is TRUE!!You would be happy with that because presumably you dont hunt Deer or you are partially anti.I would not vote for anyone who did not intend to overturn everything that those b*****ds have taken away from us.Once you start saying "Im happy because i can still do my bit"Then you may as well get yourself a fishing rod. Quote Link to post
threbb 0 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nothing positive yet, surely there must be someone on here more in the know. Hunting people are mostly twats on horseback who think little of terriers and lurchers.They only look to people like us when they are in the shit otherwise do you think they would organise a march to save lurcher and terrier work? We all need to let the C/A know that we will only accept all or nothing.Remember it was the BASC who saved terrier work last time not the C/A .A well known sausage dog breeder when he was a huntsman called terriers a neccesary evil,and thats how most of them think so beware. dont kid yourself BASC did english terrier men no favours that is why you can only use a terrier to protect game birds if defra had taken the NWTF consultation paper it could have been different BASC only helped shooting people and gamekeepers keep there terrier work legal I suppose your right.What makes me mad is how everyone seems to just think of there own bit when the going gets tough.The countryside alliance has done a good job i think on the whole. Quote Link to post
Hepher 86 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 hopefully the ban will get overturned thats what i hope happens with a bit of luck But will terriers survive ? god i hope so.i will continue to do it either way but its alot better for us all if it were legal! if its not made legal again a will still keep working my terriers but just be very discreet about things AND VOICING YOUR OPINIONS ON AN OPEN FORUM WITH PROBABLY THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED DOGS IS BEING DISCREET. I LOVE THL JUST FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT VALUE, YA DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR IT AND THAT'S PRICELESS!!! Quote Link to post
Guest miller1989 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 if it got over turned ,then things would go straight back to how it used to be ,its a lot harder to get a law wrote up on something ,but if it gets turned over at somepoint it goes straight back to how it was before the ban IMHO it will never go back to the way it was and rather find a difficult middle way which they tried and is unworkable they'll ban it altogether ..why because its easier that way why is it easier that way?your not a very positive thinker to say your on a hunting forum?weather it does or not ill always have my fingers x hoping it gets lifted no thinkin it will get ban altogether like yourself Quote Link to post
bullxryno 21 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 well i was reading in a paper not long ago that the consivertives got in that they would get rid of the hunting ban but they would still have the ban for deer!!! i only hope it is TRUE!!You would be happy with that because presumably you dont hunt Deer or you are partially anti.I would not vote for anyone who did not intend to overturn everything that those b*****ds have taken away from us.Once you start saying "Im happy because i can still do my bit"Then you may as well get yourself a fishing rod. partially anti do not insult me plz!!! and i i thought its better than f**k all!! Quote Link to post
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