COUNTRYMANS WEEKLY

[socks 32,253]

for god sakes dont get lloyd back writing in magazines look what it did to him last time ..........

 

Edited May 27, 2009 by socks

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

for god sakes dont get Lloyd back writing in magazines look what it did to him last time ..........

 

@ Socks.....

[artic 595]

Penny is very experianced with her dogs and does work them.

 

[zigzag dan 784]

i agree it is very tame when it comes to hunting articles - but to be fair to penny taylor she does work her dogs - she used to run the east of england coursing club - mate of mine used to hunt with her and she used to be mad for it - anyway - that tracy who runs the countrymans - top totty she is - definatly worth the £2 !!!

[artic 595]

i agree it is very tame when it comes to hunting articles - but to be fair to penny taylor she does work her dogs - she used to run the east of england coursing club - mate of mine used to hunt with her and she used to be mad for it - anyway - that tracy who runs the countrymans - top totty she is - definatly worth the £2 !!!

 

[Simoman 110]

Years ago when in was shooting news I was so excited to take my pocket money to the shop and buy it every week, I still buy the odd copy but it has lost the essence of the working dog man with me, there are still some good articles and I think Penny (skycat) has an excellent writing style that is very knowledgable but many years ago I contacted the magazine and asked about writing articles and they couldn't even be arsed to return my e-mails so I have and continue to write articles for EDRD.

IMO the ONLY magazine aimed at grass roots fieldsports and god bless the contributors who are also involved with this forum.........................

[micky 3,325]

In the 60s I read the shooting times. All the writers turned out brilliant articles week in, week out - Tower Bird ,Oliver Kite,Jack Ivester Lloyd and Gough Thomas, to name just a few. These men could put you in a field or by the banks of a river with just a few words. Even now, 50 years later. their articles are still fresh in my mind. My mother used to read them for the sheer pleasure and she was no real lover of country sport - they all seemed to write like Jack Hargreaves spoke. Their experience and love of the countryside came through in all they wrote. Even as i write this ,i am thinking of an article Tim sedgewick penned ,about how teams of rabbit trappers came down from the north of England,to trap and snare rabbits in the garden of England,somehow you could smell it ,taste it,when he said it was cold ,you felt it.These people could write,but are no longer with us,and have been replaced with likes of Simon Whitehead who turn out a weekly half page of pap.

[Guest SJM]

The main difference I can see is that the rewards of writing for EDRD are simply to share your experiences with likeminded dog folk and thats why the passion is present in many of the articles, because people are writing them because theyre driven by a need to share something thats dear to them, something that excites and interests them. There is no financial gain from writing for EDRD, other than dave being kind enough to give you a free sub to the mag, this along with its uncensored free speech approach makes it what it is. CMW on the other hand actively encourages its regular writers to churn out jibberish each week for the pay packet. Add to that the fact one paper is weekly and under close public scrutiny and the other is monthly and less readily available or censored and its easy to see that things will probably never change, CMW cant afford to allow hunters a true voice

[Guest gyppo]

+most go on about true hunters, how many is there out there,but i do agree cmw isnt worth the money they ask for a copy but what else is there in todays society,i for one wouldnt buy a copy of cmw we learn more of these sites and the pictures are a lot better

[skycat 6,173]

Well, seeing as my anonymity on here is a thing of the past I'd just like to say thanks to those who stuck up for me, and to those who think I don't work my dogs: you obviously don't read my articles. LOL

 

Yes, its bloody difficult to think of something to write about each week: do you really want to read: I went ferreting, lamping or something like that every week? There's only so many articles you can write about a subject before you start going round in circles. Or maybe some people do just want to read how many holes you dug to extract one rabbit from a stop end: every week? maybe there really are people who are so hooked on such things.

 

And yes, you can write only about legal hunting nowadays: even writing an account of a dig to a fox is fraught with problems as by law you have to call the terrier out then dig the fox out, only digging to the terrier if it is stuck! (I never could get my head around that part of the law: so obviously not set up by people who know what really happens in the field.)

 

So accounts of digs to hard dogs have to be very carefully worded, which of course takes all the spice and juice of the tale. Even 'memory lane' articles about hare coursing and foxing need to be toned down: and God forbid you actually appeared to be enjoying yourself: the only thing you are allowed to enjoy is ratting, as its only the most rabid of antis who appear to love the rat. LOL

 

Anything to do with deer, even pre ban are a definite no-no: (gotta envy Stabs out in Oz, the lucky b*****d!)

 

I don't have to justify myself to anyone and I enjoy writing, its part of who I am, and I also love reading other people's hunting tales: just a pity that more people don't write into the magazine with their stories BUT and this is for those who have sent stuff in only to have never seen it again: the English has to be grammatically correct, it has to be politically correct and it can't be more than 1000 words in length.

 

SJM is absolutely right in what she said about Plummer: there is a wrong way and a right way to write an article and its not that easy to fit something readable into that few words.

 

The other reason I write is that I wish someone would have written the injury/training/husbandry type articles when I was learning about lurchers etc: there is still very little written about injuries, foot problems, muscle problems, fitness etc when it comes to lurchers and if I can help even one or two people not to make the same mistakes I did over the years then its worth it. I'm not saying I know it all, far from it, and I learn something new every day when it comes to training, health etc.

 

I choose what I want to write about, no one tells me to do a certain article, and I know that they're not all as interesting or as exciting as they might be: its called writer's block! LOL.

 

Nuff said.

[Stabs 3]

I have and continue to write articles for EDRD.

 

Are you that Tweedcoat bloke?

 

We are always encouraging here about article competitions as we've had two before, with the last one being only last year I think.

If there's enough support then we'd always consider another one.

Going from what Penny has said above though, the option to submit them to the CMW might be a mute point though due to content constraints.

That would depend on the article of course.

 

I can't comment on the CMW as I stopped getting it in about 99'

[Neal 1,873]

I think it's a bit of horses for courses; some people enjoy reading articles which simply tell you about a particular day's hunt whereas other people like articles with lots of facts that they already know (and no; that's not a criticism, I'm sure I'm not the only person on here with shelves full of dog books and birding books full of the same information). There's a place for both but the thing is to keep them moving and interesting. Some of us may be thinking, "oh no, not the old, 'are whippets better than whippet crosses,' 'the rise and fall of the working border,' or 'which lurcher type is best for ferreting?'," but to some new readers these will be fresh ideas and food for thought.

[mackay 3,400]

Love or hate Plummer he wrote a highly readable article week in week out for years, no mean feat, regardless of whether it was fact or fiction he was in a class of his own literary wise. Probably why no one has taken his place.

[desertdog 149]

Well, seeing as my anonymity on here is a thing of the past I'd just like to say thanks to those who stuck up for me, and to those who think I don't work my dogs: you obviously don't read my articles. LOL

 

Yes, its bloody difficult to think of something to write about each week: do you really want to read: I went ferreting, lamping or something like that every week? There's only so many articles you can write about a subject before you start going round in circles. Or maybe some people do just want to read how many holes you dug to extract one rabbit from a stop end: every week? maybe there really are people who are so hooked on such things.

 

And yes, you can write only about legal hunting nowadays: even writing an account of a dig to a fox is fraught with problems as by law you have to call the terrier out then dig the fox out, only digging to the terrier if it is stuck! (I never could get my head around that part of the law: so obviously not set up by people who know what really happens in the field.)

 

So accounts of digs to hard dogs have to be very carefully worded, which of course takes all the spice and juice of the tale. Even 'memory lane' articles about hare coursing and foxing need to be toned down: and God forbid you actually appeared to be enjoying yourself: the only thing you are allowed to enjoy is ratting, as its only the most rabid of antis who appear to love the rat. LOL

 

Anything to do with deer, even pre ban are a definite no-no: (gotta envy Stabs out in Oz, the lucky b*****d!)

 

I don't have to justify myself to anyone and I enjoy writing, its part of who I am, and I also love reading other people's hunting tales: just a pity that more people don't write into the magazine with their stories BUT and this is for those who have sent stuff in only to have never seen it again: the English has to be grammatically correct, it has to be politically correct and it can't be more than 1000 words in length.

 

SJM is absolutely right in what she said about Plummer: there is a wrong way and a right way to write an article and its not that easy to fit something readable into that few words.

 

The other reason I write is that I wish someone would have written the injury/training/husbandry type articles when I was learning about lurchers etc: there is still very little written about injuries, foot problems, muscle problems, fitness etc when it comes to lurchers and if I can help even one or two people not to make the same mistakes I did over the years then its worth it. I'm not saying I know it all, far from it, and I learn something new every day when it comes to training, health etc.

 

I choose what I want to write about, no one tells me to do a certain article, and I know that they're not all as interesting or as exciting as they might be: its called writer's block! LOL.

 

Nuff said.

well said.

[surrey lass 12]

Penny is very experianced with her dogs and does work them.

 

 

 

I would like to add to this, i have coursed with penny and her partner andy in the east of england coursing club and some of their dogs were excellent, as you know it is not easy to get a good coursing dog, always dreaded being paired up with one of theirs plus several other members dogs,