SMART DOG 340 Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 ]i understand totally what you are saying mate but i think a refresh on the writers could not do no harm im not saying sack the writers as they do a good jo just think its time they got another few writers on there books just for a mix up and maybe a young writers section for the youth of the sport Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wexford Pa 84 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 well after been a long subscriber to this paper i think its about time they got a grip This weeks is a lurchers special issue and it is once again pish poor the writers seem to cover the same stories every couple of month i think its about time they got some new writers as these ones just keep going round in circles so if there are any cmw folk on here or any of the writers please try something else Why dont you write yourself ?? if its that easy I used to do a weekly column for a a pigeon mag and I can tell you its bloody hard to find things to write about week in and week out so instead of moaning why not write some articles and send then in and lets see if you can do any better How hard could it be if your working your dogs all the time and just writing about your experiences? I do buy The Countrymans Weekly and i can say it could improve.. I can see some of the columns are wrote about topics that people write into the paper about, can the authors not write about their own experiences and topics instead of relyin on the readers to give them ideas.. I mean i could think of a few ways to improve the paper.. I mean there's better articles on here than there is in TWC. But sayin that i still buy it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 They edit all the best bits out of articles, I speak from experience , if you put in anything a bit juicy whatsoever they whisk it straight out, and what you get left with on the printed page is a bland article with just the basics. EDRD is a much better read or it was last time I had a look, because its not censored in the way CMW is. Why not have a weekly or monthly article spot on this forum and then the best ones could be sent on to CMW with a note attatched saying that the article has been voted for by GENUINE hunting people and we think it would be of interest to others. Something akin to the article comp held by Ian a while back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bendover plz 1 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 chalkwarrener maybe you should get on there,with jdarcy,at least,you can write from you own experiences,instead of the crap that comes out of some of them writers mouths,it makes you wonder if some of them do work dogs,the crap they write. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wexford Pa 84 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 They edit all the best bits out of articles, I speak from experience , if you put in anything a bit juicy whatsoever they whisk it straight out, and what you get left with on the printed page is a bland article with just the basics. EDRD is a much better read or it was last time I had a look, because its not censored in the way CMW is. Why not have a weekly or monthly article spot on this forum and then the best ones could be sent on to CMW with a note attatched saying that the article has been voted for by GENUINE hunting people and we think it would be of interest to others. Something akin to the article comp held by Ian a while back. thats a good idea SJM, an article from real/extreme hunters.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maty j 6 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 penny taylor,i put her bit in the bottom of my budgie cage every week,man she writes some crap I havn't bought one for a good while now but have had a flick through and think hers are the only ones worth reading. All the others are same old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 chalkwarrener maybe you should get on there,with jdarcy,at least,you can write from you own experiences,instead of the crap that comes out of some of them writers mouths,it makes you wonder if some of them do work dogs,the crap they write. @bendover plz.... I don't think any descriptive tales of my days and nights out catching a few shushis would excite the C/W readers Plus,.I've a mind to remember the old adage,.."Once bitten, Twice shy".....etc,.etc.... All the best,..CHALKWARREN.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Brian Plummer once told me that the formula for a successful article was to begin it with something catchy to get the audience involved, pose a question to them or something similar, then he said tell them all about the mistakes you have made and failures and mishaps that have befell you, he said people love to hear about misfortunes as long as theyre not their own and then towards the end perk it up with some humour or a happy outcome, tie the end in with the beginning so that the article feels rounded, a good way to end being with a quote or something witty to leave them thinking and wanting more. He might have been an arsehole but it is sound advice on how to write for an audience because love him or hate him, most folk kept tuning in each week to see what he had to say Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fence_hopper Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 they obviosly suffered with the hunting ban as they can't talk about digging etc the interesting things, another labour victim i think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,944 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The bottom line is this, with this feckin hunting ban with dogs. All they can write about is feckin rabbiting, they aint going to write about what dog is best at foxes or deer, well are they. I like most find it feckin [boring to read] But as its not just for lurcher lads+lassies, so they aint going to change the format are they. If i wont a read on lurchers+terriers [working] i read the E.D.R.D , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rolfe 2 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 As has been stated previously.......I have (and still do) write articles occasionally for the CMW on various aspects of pest control, be that snaring, trapping, long-netting, ferreting etc. There is a lot to write about BUT there are only so many ways you can explain how to set a snare, spring trap or cage trap before it becomes stale and repetitive. I now try and pitch my articles to any new developments within the pest control world, like the breakaway snare for example, or any new cage or spring trap developments that may come along. I always write from experience......(not hearsay) and tell it as it is so to speak........and often it is not what people want to hear. I personally think what tends to drag some of the articles down are the ones that just re-enact a days ferreting for instance........you know the ones i mean. I put a ferret in this or that bury and bolted 3, then we moved on and bolted another 2 from a woodpile etc etc etc. I am not knocking the articles as such,......but do we really learn anything from them?. Unless you have actually sat down to write a 1500 word article, you cannot possibly know how hard it is at times to come up with something new, original, and entertaining for the general public to read. Yes i agree some new writers would be a refreshing change (it's always good to hear differing opinions) but it really isn't quite as easy as it looks to churn out readable articles week after week.......So if you haven't tried it......please don't knock it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BLUCHER 1 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Its a bit like this forum really, things are bound to repeat themselves, if you dont like dont buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Plus,.I've a mind to remember the old adage,.."Once bitten, Twice shy".....etc,.etc.... All the best,..CHALKWARREN.... They'd never remember that CW ... perhaps we should ask for 'Steve on Stuffing' to be revived too - he'd wet himself laughing if I asked him!! OTC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The bottom line is this, with this feckin hunting ban with dogs. All they can write about is feckin rabbiting, they aint going to write about what dog is best at foxes or deer, well are they. I like most find it feckin [boring to read] But as its not just for lurcher lads+lassies, so they aint going to change the format are they. If i wont a read on lurchers+terriers [working] i read the E.D.R.D , Bird, there is absolutely nothing to stop anyone publishing articles about foxes, hares and deer as long as it is not inciting people to break the law. Harking back to the days of Yore is perfectly within the law. IMO. When the Internet came along the magazines didnt grasp how serious a threat it would be. And, indeed, i can see in the not too distant future some magazines will struggle.Only those with a loyal readership and pechant for producing good, solid , down to earth articles will be unaffected (EDRD for example as its readers are passionate about it and its the mag thats grass-roots for us all) The magazines that have, in the past, riden rough-shod over its readership and have pissed people off by not giving them a right to reply will be wishing they had. I should imagine its a hard job putting a mag together....and in the present economic climate amd the threat of the internet , a job that is very testing........The net? That's here to stay, and if magazines do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs then they had better adapt, give readers what they want, pay more for articles if nessesary,get true working writers on board for if they dont, there could be a journalistic Ice-age coming up ahead.......JD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wexford Pa 84 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I appreciate what your saying Rolfe, i cant imagine what its like to write a column and make it sound interesting and keep the reader interested but surely the editors can come up with something new, even a new weekly column ie. a health and training column for instance, just an idea.. And maybe not go back over the same topics after 2-3 weeks.. im sure theres more ideas from other readers on topics or columns of interest.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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