open ticket

[bignoel 14]

i spoke to my fao yesterday about a open ticket for my rimmi 22 work related he said i certainly use enough ammo but they would not consider it for at least 3 years else its on renewal at 5 years .

[arveyboy 0]

i wouldn't imagine theres much hope in persuading your department to change their minds with grants of open tickets. i thought an open ticket applies to all of your calibres not calibre specific. its a shame because my licensing department said they'd give me an open ticket after my first renewal or if i send the certificate in after one year. firearms licensing needs to sort itself out its ridiculous

[riohog 5,701]

you just never know were you stand with these licencing dept each area is different at one time as soon as you got a centrefire

 

that was it you got an open ticketon everything but i have heard of some regions that are becoming calibre persificon this condition

 

they seem to change the goal posts whenever it suits them

[markbivvy 6]

i spoke to my fao yesterday about a open ticket for my rimmi 22 work related he said i certainly use enough ammo but they would not consider it for at least 3 years else its on renewal at 5 years .

 

Hi N.

Ask for it buy letter mate keep it official.give them a good reason.

there is no time limit on granting open tickets.

[Bootsha 1,306]

The last time I asked about an open ticket to our firearms Dept, I was tol"Theres no such thing ", but when my ticket came back it was worded in such a way that left it open im my opinion. "To where the licence holder has permission from the Chief constable for that area, and also from the person / s who own the ground or sporting shooting rights, that he(the licence holder) deems the ground suitable", not quoted verbattum, but along those lines.

Now that sounds pretty open to me but the Firearms Dept said, "No such thing", By the way have had a FAC for 25 years, perhaps it's their way of unofficially keeping it open, until something (god forbid) went wrong, and then the teflon non stick jacket gets put on and hey presto, you shoudln't have been there. I now use my own discression, if I have permission, and the ground is safe, i'll use it. By the way, my issuing authority is Dyfed Powys police.

 

Regards

 

WAB

[arveyboy 0]

The last time I asked about an open ticket to our firearms Dept, I was tol"Theres no such thing ", but when my ticket came back it was worded in such a way that left it open im my opinion. "To where the licence holder has permission from the Chief constable for that area, and also from the person / s who own the ground or sporting shooting rights, that he(the licence holder) deems the ground suitable", not quoted verbattum, but along those lines.

Now that sounds pretty open to me but the Firearms Dept said, "No such thing", By the way have had a FAC for 25 years, perhaps it's their way of unofficially keeping it open, until something (god forbid) went wrong, and then the teflon non stick jacket gets put on and hey presto, you shoudln't have been there. I now use my own discression, if I have permission, and the ground is safe, i'll use it. By the way, my issuing authority is Dyfed Powys police.

 

Regards

 

WAB

 

sounds like a closed ticket to me mate. sorry

[Mr_Logic 5]

The last time I asked about an open ticket to our firearms Dept, I was tol"Theres no such thing ", but when my ticket came back it was worded in such a way that left it open im my opinion. "To where the licence holder has permission from the Chief constable for that area, and also from the person / s who own the ground or sporting shooting rights, that he(the licence holder) deems the ground suitable", not quoted verbattum, but along those lines.

Now that sounds pretty open to me but the Firearms Dept said, "No such thing", By the way have had a FAC for 25 years, perhaps it's their way of unofficially keeping it open, until something (god forbid) went wrong, and then the teflon non stick jacket gets put on and hey presto, you shoudln't have been there. I now use my own discression, if I have permission, and the ground is safe, i'll use it. By the way, my issuing authority is Dyfed Powys police.

 

Regards

 

WAB

Well, your firearms departments needs a wake-up call, I have an open ticket, so there certainly is such a thing.

[mickyfinn 1]

Mine is open but only after my 1st 5 yrs,ie 1st renewal when they did it,i asked before only to be told NOOO.thats by cheshire,also i was alowed 2 same cals,,one for day,one for night,that even caused a prob recently,when the main head person there said if she new at the time,i was asking for so many same cal rifles she would of said a Nooo again,,lol,,,not like i applied all at once,was over last 5 yrs.and its them who said yes so why is she complaining.i can still only use one rifle and one bullet at a time.had my licence now 12 yrs or so

soooooooooo annoying sometimes,and no common sense.

 

mick :no:

[mike white 1]

The last time I asked about an open ticket to our firearms Dept, I was tol"Theres no such thing ", but when my ticket came back it was worded in such a way that left it open im my opinion. "To where the licence holder has permission from the Chief constable for that area, and also from the person / s who own the ground or sporting shooting rights, that he(the licence holder) deems the ground suitable", not quoted verbattum, but along those lines.

Now that sounds pretty open to me but the Firearms Dept said, "No such thing", By the way have had a FAC for 25 years, perhaps it's their way of unofficially keeping it open, until something (god forbid) went wrong, and then the teflon non stick jacket gets put on and hey presto, you shoudln't have been there. I now use my own discression, if I have permission, and the ground is safe, i'll use it. By the way, my issuing authority is Dyfed Powys police.

 

Regards

 

WAB

 

Thats a closed ticket mate heres the difference.

 

Open ticket

On an open ticket the following wording is used ,,, land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot

 

 

Non Open Ticket

On an Non open ticket the following wording is used ,,,Land deemed suitable by the Chief officer of Police for the area where the land is situated and over which the Holder has Lawful Authority to Shoot.

Edited May 26, 2009 by mike white

[welshdragon 6]

The last time I asked about an open ticket to our firearms Dept, I was tol"Theres no such thing ", but when my ticket came back it was worded in such a way that left it open im my opinion. "To where the licence holder has permission from the Chief constable for that area, and also from the person / s who own the ground or sporting shooting rights, that he(the licence holder) deems the ground suitable", not quoted verbattum, but along those lines.

Now that sounds pretty open to me but the Firearms Dept said, "No such thing", By the way have had a FAC for 25 years, perhaps it's their way of unofficially keeping it open, until something (god forbid) went wrong, and then the teflon non stick jacket gets put on and hey presto, you shoudln't have been there. I now use my own discression, if I have permission, and the ground is safe, i'll use it. By the way, my issuing authority is Dyfed Powys police.

 

Regards

 

WAB

 

sounds like a closed ticket to me mate. sorry

 

it sounds a closed ticket. (To where the licence holder has permission from the Chief constable for that area)

 

W.D

[bignoel 14]

i spoke to my fao yesterday about a open ticket for my rimmi 22 work related he said i certainly use enough ammo but they would not consider it for at least 3 years else its on renewal at 5 years .

 

Hi N.

Ask for it buy letter mate keep it official.give them a good reason.

there is no time limit on granting open tickets.

 

hi m

,i thought about this but now my fao will think i am trying to go over his head if i do now should of just tried it by letter dont want to pee him off .atb noel

[riohog 5,701]

look mate just send a letter get it in writing yes or no and it will put you at peace

 

 

if the feo thinks your jumping over his head so what!

[RicW 67]

i spoke to my fao yesterday about a open ticket for my rimmi 22 work related he said i certainly use enough ammo but they would not consider it for at least 3 years else its on renewal at 5 years .

Is there a bit of confusion here? An open FAC gives you the right to shoot over any land cleared for the calibre you use. A closed FAC only entitles you to shoot over land for which you have written permission. Nothing to do with target/field shooting. I can see no reason for refusing you a closed FAC to shoot over land for which you have written permission. Get written permission to shoot, say, rabbits and pest birds on a given piece of land with your calibre and your FAC should agree. ATB,

Ric

[markbivvy 6]

firearms enquiry officer, firearms department manager.

A world of difference between the pair.

ALL enquiries like this should be made to the chief of police for the area you are in.

then it gets handed down to the next in command, (firearms department manager).

and its his decision not the feo,s.

[riohog 5,701]

i spoke to my fao yesterday about a open ticket for my rimmi 22 work related he said i certainly use enough ammo but they would not consider it for at least 3 years else its on renewal at 5 years .

Is there a bit of confusion here? An open FAC gives you the right to shoot over any land cleared for the calibre you use. A closed FAC only entitles you to shoot over land for which you have written permission. Nothing to do with target/field shooting. I can see no reason for refusing you a closed FAC to shoot over land for which you have written permission. Get written permission to shoot, say, rabbits and pest birds on a given piece of land with your calibre and your FAC should agree. ATB,

Ric

that is not correct! closed land over which the chief constable for that area deems suitable for that calibre

 

 

open land over which you deem suitable and have permission