first gundog... what breed?

[ROB.BOB 21]

in the future, im going to buy my self a pup to train from scratch for beating and shooting

 

(we already own a 5 year old spring, who is alright at scurrys but about as steady as jelly! and a 8 year old cocker, but hes gun shy, although he is an incredable hunter, when a phesant flys up from infront of him he just watches it and gets back to work! but theyre both more as pets)

 

i was thinking along the lines of a springer as our family has owned them for 20 years and i would like to carry it on.

but what breed would you guys recomend?

 

abd also dose anyone know a way to make a dog ungun shy or is it imprinted for life?

 

rob

Edited May 24, 2009 by ROB.BOB

[ratmogit 16]

in the future, im going to buy my self a pup to train from scratch for beating and shooting

 

(we already own a 5 year old spring, who is alright at scurrys but about as steady as jelly! and a 8 year old cocker, but hes gun shy, although he is an incredable hunter, when a phesant flys up from infront of him he just watches it and gets back to work! but theyre both more as pets)

 

i was thinking along the lines of a springer as our family has owned them for 20 years and i would like to carry it on.

but what breed would you guys recomend?

 

abd also dose anyone know a way to make a dog ungun shy or is it imprinted for life?

 

rob

try starting far away from the kennel whilst its eating with a kids cap gun. ive heard of people trying this. not done it myself though

[eshielsgundogs 0]

It would depend on if the dog is gun shy or gun nervous?

 

I would recommend a lab, to balance your team.

 

Ian

[mushroom 12,879]

get the breed that suits your style and start it on a starter pistol (smal blanks) as soon as is proper, give little piece of meat/whatever every time you fire. this will help the dog to assciociate the noise with something positive and prevent gunshyness

[ROB.BOB 21]

It would depend on if the dog is gun shy or gun nervous?

 

I would recommend a lab, to balance your team.

 

Ian

 

thanks for the reply, but it would be the start of my team... the current dogs are just pets really... wouldnt dream of taking them beating!

 

Rob

[ROB.BOB 21]

...also, is there a ''starter'' HPR breed?

[eshielsgundogs 0]

...also, is there a ''starter'' HPR breed?

 

I wouldn't recommend an HPR to train as a first dog unless you have a lot of ground to train it on, and have someone that you can get advice from.

 

Labs and spaniels would be a better bet in my opinion.

 

Ian

[ROB.BOB 21]

...also, is there a ''starter'' HPR breed?

 

I wouldn't recommend an HPR to train as a first dog unless you have a lot of ground to train it on, and have someone that you can get advice from.

 

Labs and spaniels would be a better bet in my opinion.

 

Ian

 

cherrs, i will probly stick to spaniels and labs, although at some point (long way off) i want to own a GWP

 

im surounder by farm land that the framer lets go, do whatever i want (within reason)

actually Wilson Young lives just up the road from me, i wrote a letter to him asking about how HPR's work but he never wrote back

[jessdale 416]

My first gundog was a GSP bred at a top field trial kennel.If you want a HPR get one,you will always do better with the breed you want,dont get second best.

[ROB.BOB 21]

My first gundog was a GSP bred at a top field trial kennel.If you want a HPR get one,you will always do better with the breed you want,dont get second best.

 

thanks , did you find your alright to train?

[jessdale 416]

My first gundog was a GSP bred at a top field trial kennel.If you want a HPR get one,you will always do better with the breed you want,dont get second best.

 

thanks , did you find your alright to train?

Yes and no to be honest.He hunted,quartered,pointed and retrieved naturally.He was very easy to train in those areas.BUT i could not steady him on hares.He coursed the first one he saw,at about 6 months old,and never forgot it.I tried every way in the book to stop him,and i mean every way,but he was still chasing them a few days before he was pts at about 11 year old.

[kiwi 4]

if you have a hackering for a gwp mate get one...........your other choices are a lab and a springer as stated, labs are easy to train, but boring, springers require as much training as an hpr , a gwp from good stable lines is an ideal starter hpr, they don't run as hard and fast as a gsp and are very trainable.

[ROB.BOB 21]

if you have a hackering for a gwp mate get one...........your other choices are a lab and a springer as stated, labs are easy to train, but boring, springers require as much training as an hpr , a gwp from good stable lines is an ideal starter hpr, they don't run as hard and fast as a gsp and are very trainable.

 

thanks , i was under the impression that they were for advanced traniers only... i think i know what the coming seasons beating money is going towards

 

 

... or a gordon setter? probly not a great idea

[ROB.BOB 21]

My first gundog was a GSP bred at a top field trial kennel.If you want a HPR get one,you will always do better with the breed you want,dont get second best.

 

thanks , did you find your alright to train?

Yes and no to be honest.He hunted,quartered,pointed and retrieved naturally.He was very easy to train in those areas.BUT i could not steady him on hares.He coursed the first one he saw,at about 6 months old,and never forgot it.I tried every way in the book to stop him,and i mean every way,but he was still chasing them a few days before he was pts at about 11 year old.

 

i think i may get one... we'll have to wait and see

[Catcher 1 639]

Must be a Springer