welshhound2 20 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 well said labsnlurchers great reply Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Their ignorance is so wide spread amongst the people we are trying to reason with that it will take a Generation of thought and information to change their attitudes. In the last major recession in the 1930's no one complained about a Rabbit or two landing on their doorstep, but since we have had more money between us and the increasing distance between food and plate, we have forgotten all this. Its a shame that Supermarkets exist in my eyes, they are our main enemy in my view not the Anti's. Antis are violent windbags, they can be ignored, same as they ignore us, but the supermarkets have such a hold on Joe Public, what they buy, what they eat, what they wear, even what appliances you have in your home. They will take a lot to win over. JMHO SS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiff 36 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 the "magical creature" bit made me laugh ... what is it, a unicorn or a dragon? good reponse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Well written response LNL I furrowed my brow a bit when reading the letter. Magical? Wtf is magical about a badger??? What a bizarre thing to say Quote Link to post Share on other sites
labsnlurchers 39 Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Thanks everyone, ive sent the letter, ill let you know the outcome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
labsnlurchers 39 Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) Well, needless to say my letter didn't get printed but the next edition had 3 more anti letters in it Anyway, the situation in south west wales is pretty horrendous, theres goats, alpaccas, cats and dogs getting TB now! http://www.dailypost.co.uk/farming-north-wales/farming-news/2008/10/07/bovine-tb-surge-adds-weight-to-badger-cull-calls-55578-21978054/ About time someone did something, the only reason its not took of in humans is because we are immunised at school. Edited November 9, 2009 by labsnlurchers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 It's beyond a joke. There are farms round here having terrible problems with TB, and I believe it's no coincidence that the badger population has exploded over the past few years. It used to be rare to see one on a night out on the lamp, but you are almost guaranteed to see a few on most of the permissions round here these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bedrock 16 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Im sorry about the letter not being published. The media have a huge affect on the public, because that news paper will not print your letter they are denying to even acknowledge that there is another side to the story. So Joe public will continue to look at animals as the :db: magical :db: cuddly creators portrayed in the wind and the willows. The frustrating thing is that most of the antis and do gooders arent part of a rural community and think they can tell us how to run the country side. It would be a different story if it was their lively hood being affected by these animals. atb bedrock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 A well written reply L&L - could you add anything about the population explosion of badgers within the same timescale, and why there are so many badgers killed on our roads? OTC Don't wish to add coals etc etc.....but I know for a fact that some/many road kill deaths are actually gassed or shot badgers that have been moved off farmers land and placed to look like road kill. I have accidentally hit two badgers in my driving life and both times they've caused serious damage to my vehicle. Lost the front faring and number plate once and had to replace a whole nearside wing on the other occaision. However you very rarely see debris near the site of a road killed badger. To be honest I am ambivilant to the cull issue but the issue of road kill could be used in the same way the hedgehog population is evaluated. More road kill hedgehogs indicates a growth in hedgehog population. rgds Swampy flattenedning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeakOil 352 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 The senseless murder of these innocent and beautiful creatures I thought murder only applied if you killed your fellow human(s)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent (or malice aforethought), and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter). As the loss of a human being inflicts enormous grief upon the individuals close to the victim, as well as the fact that the commission of a murder permanently deprives the victim of their existence, most societies both present and in antiquity have considered it a most serious crime worthy of the harshest of punishment. Typically a convicted murder suspect is given a life sentence or even the death penalty for such an act. A person who commits murder is called a murderer ;[1] the term murderess, meaning a woman who murders, has largely fallen into disuse So according to the rational, informed and articulate individual that penned the letter, badgers are now humans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Raven 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I can't comment on the TB side of the problem but one thing I have noticed in England, compared to Spain, is the sheer amount of road traffic fatalites. Only yesterday I counted 20 pheasants, 6 partridges, 1 barn owl, 1 tawny owl, 1 buzzard, 1 kestrel, 2 foxes, 1 badger, 7 rabbits, 3 muntjac deer, 1 grey squirrel, 1 polecat and several unidentified remains during one 20 mile drive across countryside roads. I can only guess the reason for more badgers(or any animal) killed on roads today is the constantly growing volume of traffic on British roads plus the many who drive too fast on country roads. Hopefully a vaccine can solve the problem and keep everyone happy but there are many sides to this story and without doing your own research it is difficult to know who to believe. If I remember correct the word 'murder' derived from Old English 'mordoor' which meant secret killing of man or beast. For example a soldier does not murder his enemy in battle and the English like to murder a pint. English lessons from a Spaniard, whatever next? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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