Pedro Santana 0 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 duhhhhh :crazy: Quote Link to post
chilli 381 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 These dogs that only bolt foxes what do the dogs do if the fox wont bolt , or put it another way how do you know if they havnt left a fox to ground !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
welshhound2 20 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 i agree with johnny 85 here, any dog or bitch that does that amount of work on a regular basis and sees that amount of foxes an never been dug to in my eyes can not be called a serious earth dog. please don't think i'am having a go but if a dog takes its quarry to a stop then that dog should keep it there an see the job through, not let pass, not go into reverse gear letting the fox go up a side tube then to bolt. if it were mine there would be some serious????????? above its head. what you on about.what i have is a bolting terrier,her job is bolting foxes to guns,duhhh.digging dogs are there to be dug to,duhhh.probally account for more in 1 mth than you do a year.stated at the syart of this i wasnt after an argument/school ground bitchiness.its all been pretty placid untill you lowered the standard. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 JUst a quick question. This is not a dig at anyone just a question out of interest. All these dogs that bolt and never have to be dug to, have they never got a fox in a pocket or dead end. Like if this is the case surely they have either let the fox pass them or have walked. Like if you drive up adead end road you have to reverse or in our case be dug out surely, am I wrong? you tell me.ive dug to all mine apart from this bitch and she aint no learner by all means.yet to dig to her and believe me,shes out more than 99% of the rest of the terriers on this forum.of course,she stays well off which is why shes lost her 9th tooth and IS marked up. MY DAD HASNT A TOOTH IN HIS HEAD, BUT IT DOSNT MEAN HES BEEN WORKING FOXS, Quote Link to post
burnie69 376 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 i thought i said "please don't think i'am having a go," because i wasn't. you asked for peoples comments, you got mine, get over it... I to have a dog just for that job, bolting, not for guns tho. that dog in my mind has something lacking, like i said its only in my mind. the same dog could BOLT a thousand foxes a week, i couldn't CARE less, IN MY EYES can not be called a serious earth dog.. I MUST BE MENTAL EVEN REPLYING Quote Link to post
winnie 1 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I've been out with Rod and his black bitch and everything he's saying i can back up,she works the earth really well and bolts her foxes really quickly getting up close and personal without getting too much damage.The ground he works is VERY hard digging thus needing a good bolting dog that don't work the other fella's,we have'nt blanked with this bitch.yet!However there are diferent dogs for different jobs,so long as we all stick togeather to keep our sport going what does it matter.HAPPY HUNTING!!! My take on this thread is that someone with a sub standard dog, who in their heart of hearts knows it is sub standard but cant admit it, is asking other people with equally sub standard dogs to all pretend that they are proper working terriers. When in reality any terrier that can not be dug to the majority of the time it is entered is not worthy of the name working terrier. For the hunt terrierman they are the right tool for the job, for everyone else they are half a dog. Quote Link to post
chilli 381 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 If youre happy with a bolting dog then thats all that counts , but you shoudnt crtisize other people if youre not happy with thier comments . Quote Link to post
exmoocher 16 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I've been out with Rod and his black bitch and everything he's saying i can back up,she works the earth really well and bolts her foxes really quickly getting up close and personal without getting too much damage.The ground he works is VERY hard digging thus needing a good bolting dog that don't work the other fella's,we have'nt blanked with this bitch.yet!However there are diferent dogs for different jobs,so long as we all stick togeather to keep our sport going what does it matter.HAPPY HUNTING!!! My take on this thread is that someone with a sub standard dog, who in their heart of hearts knows it is sub standard but cant admit it, is asking other people with equally sub standard dogs to all pretend that they are proper working terriers. When in reality any terrier that can not be dug to the majority of the time it is entered is not worthy of the name working terrier. For the hunt terrierman they are the right tool for the job, for everyone else they are half a dog. not going to argue with anyone, but men i used to dig with in late seventies, would virtually GIVE AWAY a dog that would only work fox. if the dogs they used to keep, mostly patts. (smithy lines) worked too many foxes as well as other stuff they became far too hard on foxes so had to be kept off them all togther! had a couple like that myself, but i can see the benefit of having a dog like rodsmith has, in today's state of things, infact, if you went out on your own, it could be a godsend, providing it's as good as he says it is, ? Quote Link to post
blackpack 70 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 bay or mix it. Some people state the hard dog the wreckless dog well give it to me i will take all of them because if it wasn't for dogs like them then the terrier is fxxxed. Quote Link to post
exmoocher 16 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 bay or mix it. Some people state the hard dog the wreckless dog well give it to me i will take all of them because if it wasn't for dogs like them then the terrier is fxxxed. just about sums it up i think! Quote Link to post
Running 7 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 bay or mix it. Some people state the hard dog the wreckless dog well give it to me i will take all of them because if it wasn't for dogs like them then the terrier is fxxxed. stright and to the point Quote Link to post
toplamper 5 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 bad i dont care if you cud see them or you carnt id rather not see them then no bother of lil anties Quote Link to post
Guest rodsmith Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 These dogs that only bolt foxes what do the dogs do if the fox wont bolt , or put it another way how do you know if they havnt left a fox to ground !!!!!!!!! through knowing your own dog. Quote Link to post
Guest rodsmith Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 bay or mix it. Some people state the hard dog the wreckless dog well give it to me i will take all of them because if it wasn't for dogs like them then the terrier is fxxxed. stright and to the point totally agree.must keep and use them hard dogs to keep the working line working. Quote Link to post
Guest rodsmith Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I've been out with Rod and his black bitch and everything he's saying i can back up,she works the earth really well and bolts her foxes really quickly getting up close and personal without getting too much damage.The ground he works is VERY hard digging thus needing a good bolting dog that don't work the other fella's,we have'nt blanked with this bitch.yet!However there are diferent dogs for different jobs,so long as we all stick togeather to keep our sport going what does it matter.HAPPY HUNTING!!! My take on this thread is that someone with a sub standard dog, who in their heart of hearts knows it is sub standard but cant admit it, is asking other people with equally sub standard dogs to all pretend that they are proper working terriers. When in reality any terrier that can not be dug to the majority of the time it is entered is not worthy of the name working terrier. For the hunt terrierman they are the right tool for the job, for everyone else they are half a dog. not going to argue with anyone, but men i used to dig with in late seventies, would virtually GIVE AWAY a dog that would only work fox. if the dogs they used to keep, mostly patts. (smithy lines) worked too many foxes as well as other stuff they became far too hard on foxes so had to be kept off them all togther! had a couple like that myself, but i can see the benefit of having a dog like rodsmith has, in today's state of things, infact, if you went out on your own, it could be a godsend, providing it's as good as he says it is, ? if it wasnt as good as ive quoted,id not have said it,nor would i have all the permition i have.all the ground i work are commercial pheasant,partridge and duck shoots,1 fox can cause £1000's let alone 5 or 6 of the things.my job is to remove them and as many as poss.i check every hole,if the bitch says no,through experience and knowing how to read the dog,i take her word for it.you must have some fantastic,world beating variety? wana come out,see if mine works as i say,then i can see yours do their job.bare in mind my ground is plastered with grunt and in some deep hard places!! Quote Link to post
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