working scars.

[Guest rodsmith]

thers alot of debate and dare i say it-"piss taking" on this site daily.mainly at the lurchers at stud regarding scaring.almost every working terrier if worked to ground and done some graft WILL collect a few marks,some more than others and some alot easier to see than other breeds due to the coat type.just because a terrier isnt smashed to bits does not mean it doesnt work.many breeds work different,by this i mean not many russells are as hard as say,a patterdale.the former tending to be baying terriers.this is not meant to start any more bickering etc,merely some proper views from proper terrier boys and not from the proper variety that do all their digging etc from the comfort of an armchair,you know the sort!!

[JPTfellterrier 65]

well said

[plummer1 0]

must addmit your bang on mate, my border x lakey had quite a few scars but because of her coat they were pretty hard to see at a glance,

 

my plummer on the other hand doesnt have the heavy coat around the muzzle and will propably show scars like a beleasha beacon although he doesnt have any yet i'm sure there will be plenty to come.

 

cheers p1

[Guest jt750]

Not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying a dog that isn't scarred isn't good or a dog that is scarred better than one that isn't. For me over the years i wanted a lurcher to kill fox not fight it. I'll be honest i haven't done any terrier work myself but have been out plenty with people that have working terriers and helped to dig and dispatch. My opinion is i would rather have a bayer than a hard dog

[ratmogit 16]

thers alot of debate and dare i say it-"piss taking" on this site daily.mainly at the lurchers at stud regarding scaring.almost every working terrier if worked to ground and done some graft WILL collect a few marks,some more than others and some alot easier to see than other breeds due to the coat type.just because a terrier isnt smashed to bits does not mean it doesnt work.many breeds work different,by this i mean not many russells are as hard as say,a patterdale.the former tending to be baying terriers.this is not meant to start any more bickering etc,merely some proper views from proper terrier boys and not from the proper variety that do all their digging etc from the comfort of an armchair,you know the sort!!

no marks on mine i use bio oil........from the comfort of the sofa ratmogit

[Guest rodsmith]

must addmit your bang on mate, my border x lakey had quite a few scars but because of her coat they were pretty hard to see at a glance,

 

my plummer on the other hand doesnt have the heavy coat around the muzzle and will propably show scars like a beleasha beacon although he doesnt have any yet i'm sure there will be plenty to come.

 

cheers p1

 

cheerss lads,i no im correct.ive had coated terriers,rarely can see marks but can easily feel them however my black bitch is broken coated and works different although sensible.4yr old,currently missing 9 teeth however in full winter im out with mine 3 - 4 days a wk,this time of the year as and when im on cubbing calls unless i fancy a day at the reduns.

[Guest rodsmith]

Not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying a dog that isn't scarred isn't good or a dog that is scarred better than one that isn't. For me over the years i wanted a lurcher to kill fox not fight it. I'll be honest i haven't done any terrier work myself but have been out plenty with people that have working terriers and helped to dig and dispatch. My opinion is i would rather have a bayer than a hard dog

 

re-read what i wrote.just because a terrier OR lurcher is smashed to bits,it does not mean it is no good at his job!

[Giro 2,648]

Not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying a dog that isn't scarred isn't good or a dog that is scarred better than one that isn't. For me over the years i wanted a lurcher to kill fox not fight it. I'll be honest i haven't done any terrier work myself but have been out plenty with people that have working terriers and helped to dig and dispatch. My opinion is i would rather have a bayer than a hard dog

 

re-read what i wrote.just because a terrier OR lurcher is smashed to bits,it does not mean it is no good at his job!

 

 

dont listen to him rod.. His dog could only catch 5 rabbits out of 40 runs its most likey jibbed on evey fox it looked at..

[wexford Pa 84]

Had this argument wit a lad a while ago about a bitch i had.. she was a lakey x russel bitch, good bitch too, what i call 'a bayer n stayer'.. Well this eejit told me that he because she hadnt a mark on her that she's seen nothin but rabbit holes n claimed she'd ''be better off in a show ring''..

Now on close insection this bitch she was marked but not badly but this lad was too busy showin me his banged up dogs (from pics on his phone) that he didnt even put his hand on her to look.. So i gave him the usual story that ''i prefer to work my bitch every weekend than 1 who gets so banged up that its laid up for 3 wks''.. So he offered me a days hunting on his permission.. Well cut the story this 'show dog' showed what she can do n a year later (4 yrs ago) he bought 2 pups from the bitch n he's breedin his bitch this year..

Not a bad strain of dogs that came from a bitch wit no scars, eh?

[coneycatcher17 3]

well said

[plummer1 0]

Had this argument wit a lad a while ago about a bitch i had.. she was a lakey x russel bitch, good bitch too, what i call 'a bayer n stayer'.. Well this eejit told me that he because she hadnt a mark on her that she's seen nothin but rabbit holes n claimed she'd ''be better off in a show ring''..

Now on close insection this bitch she was marked but not badly but this lad was too busy showin me his banged up dogs (from pics on his phone) that he didnt even put his hand on her to look.. So i gave him the usual story that ''i prefer to work my bitch every weekend than 1 who gets so banged up that its laid up for 3 wks''.. So he offered me a days hunting on his permission.. Well cut the story this 'show dog' showed what she can do n a year later (4 yrs ago) he bought 2 pups from the bitch n he's breedin his bitch this year..

Not a bad strain of dogs that came from a bitch wit no scars, eh?

 

 

[sounder79 80]

Had this argument wit a lad a while ago about a bitch i had.. she was a lakey x russel bitch, good bitch too, what i call 'a bayer n stayer'.. Well this eejit told me that he because she hadnt a mark on her that she's seen nothin but rabbit holes n claimed she'd ''be better off in a show ring''..

Now on close insection this bitch she was marked but not badly but this lad was too busy showin me his banged up dogs (from pics on his phone) that he didnt even put his hand on her to look.. So i gave him the usual story that ''i prefer to work my bitch every weekend than 1 who gets so banged up that its laid up for 3 wks''.. So he offered me a days hunting on his permission.. Well cut the story this 'show dog' showed what she can do n a year later (4 yrs ago) he bought 2 pups from the bitch n he's breedin his bitch this year..

Not a bad strain of dogs that came from a bitch wit no scars, eh?

i think your better off with a dog that wont get ate every time.

[jpnixon 7]

IMO you need a mix of both a dog that is too hard isnt right as you can only dig here and there with him but a dog that doesnt mix isnt worth havin either cause if a fox wants too move a dog will have to hold him no matter what. I like a dog that sitts of yapping and when it calls for it he has no problem mixing. I have seen dogs that have plenty of scares but when your digging them they have to be dug out quick and thats not my kind of dog

[bedlingtonman 44]

My bitch is only 3 cant see her scars cause she i ruff haired but long ish but she is covered in greyish patches on head an eyes lol

[Guest rodsmith]

Had this argument wit a lad a while ago about a bitch i had.. she was a lakey x russel bitch, good bitch too, what i call 'a bayer n stayer'.. Well this eejit told me that he because she hadnt a mark on her that she's seen nothin but rabbit holes n claimed she'd ''be better off in a show ring''..

Now on close insection this bitch she was marked but not badly but this lad was too busy showin me his banged up dogs (from pics on his phone) that he didnt even put his hand on her to look.. So i gave him the usual story that ''i prefer to work my bitch every weekend than 1 who gets so banged up that its laid up for 3 wks''.. So he offered me a days hunting on his permission.. Well cut the story this 'show dog' showed what she can do n a year later (4 yrs ago) he bought 2 pups from the bitch n he's breedin his bitch this year..

Not a bad strain of dogs that came from a bitch wit no scars, eh?

i think your better off with a dog that wont get ate every time.

 

i agree,BUT there comes a time when a "HARD!" dog is needed,one which,when the bayer cannot shift his fox(yet to happen withme)a HARD dog will either kill OR draw that fox.at a show a few yrs back,a VERY well known terrier "shower" who wins most qualifiers(not mentioning names but the boys on here that know me will know who im on about was feeding me all the usual my dog does this/and that.needless i invited/pursuaded the man to join me on some of my ground.never before have i seen 2 grown men talking to what was supposed to be an Outstanding digging like a baby then rolling pebbles down the earth to get the "Outstanding" worker to enter.did it enter you ask?? did it fu*k!!