getting new pat pups in 2days and was wondering

[noisey 1]

alrite. before anyone jumps down my neck saying i shouldnt have dogs if i dont no what i am doing, i was wondering if the fundermentals were the same with terriers as with my labs ( i have never owned a terrier but alway had labs) i.e start training at about 6 months ( obedience) then the two breeds differ from there. would you lads introduce them to rats at about 7-8 months? i am hoping to get these dogs to respond to come back whistle as i am also going to use them for bushing in the season but also digging ( i know the whislte wont work there lol). if i am wrong with what i have said please feel free to put me right as it will be a lot of help.

 

atb noisey

[gnipper 6,626]

Training should start as soon as the pups used to you imo mate, its always puzzled me why gun dog people leave the pup in a kennel till its 6 months old or more before training commences.

[noisey 1]

thanks for your reply. should it be the same structure as the gundog training, obeidience then the fun stuff .can anyone recommend any books?

[OldNog 432]

I recon you will have a tough job trying to train an earth dog to the same standards as you expect from a gun dog. Completly different kettle of fish. Once mine gets its nose down its as good as game over as far as obediance goes

Edited May 18, 2009 by OldNog

[noisey 1]

i understand that and not expecting it to be like my labs, i would rather it was a bit more wild. but surely basic training cant hurt

[Guest busterdog]

Not trying to teach my grandmother mate, but the pup will start learning obedience from the second it comes to you.

People who ask me when i enter my dogs always get told the same thing, six weeks old !!.

What i mean by that is "everything counts" your body language, your voice, being in the car and around cattle all these things socialize your dog. I don't think for a second that you wouldn't do all these things but it always surprises me when people are gutted when there dog wont work first time out. You cant expect anything from your dog when it's shitting it's self because it's all to much and overwhelming.

To ask your dog to work the whistle isn't asking to much but as you know you only get out what you put in. I have a two year old that will work with a gun, he retrieves perfectly,he doesn't drop the bird but gently gives it over even waiting at heal for you to take it from him.The one thing i cant do is stop him from running in or stop him from bolting in the direction of the shot!!

I never trained this dog it was my son who took him out daily with the shotgun and he's a credit to him, but if you are used to training gun dog's then who knows whats possible, just don't expect to much they are still terriers, good luck and keep us up to date.

The one thing i should ask is are you going to work your dogs at their real job ? if so then be very careful were you work them to the gun, or it wont be long before they are missing in action.

Edited May 19, 2009 by busterdog

[noisey 1]

i was planning on using them for there real job mainly as we have a few earths on the shoot but can get invites out with the lads aswell. i just dont like leaving dogs in kennels all day so when i go on shoots i would prefer to take the terriers to do a bit bushing. i know where all the earth are and theres only one drive where they are in the gorse so i would put them on there leads. if i was on unfamilier ground then i wouldnt bush them just incase lol

[dog fox 16]

  noisey said:

i was planning on using them for there real job mainly as we have a few earths on the shoot but can get invites out with the lads aswell. i just dont like leaving dogs in kennels all day so when i go on shoots i would prefer to take the terriers to do a bit bushing. i know where all the earth are and theres only one drive where they are in the gorse so i would put them on there leads. if i was on unfamilier ground then i wouldnt bush them just incase lol

 

a good steady terrier is worth its wait in gold ,ive seen to many terriers that are a nightmare to work with ,wanting to fight any thing that comes to close , running around all over the place ,not listern to a thing the owner tells it ,and thats down to training [bANNED TEXT] put your time in a reap your rewards after all there still only dogs , cos if there not steady you,ll not be getting many invites to go back to places jmo good luck with them and do your best if your used to training labs i dont think you,ll have much trouble

[JPTfellterrier 65]

with terriers i have always gone by one rule....you give em an inch and they will take a mile...and quite often have selective hearing (well myne had )....start training once it has settled in

 

best of luck

[noisey 1]

thanks for all your replys, just herd from me mate one got crushed off the bitch last week so only getting the one now until he lines his other bitch