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Would be an interesting look. Especially if it was a wire haired vizsla. I am not an afficienado on breeding but I would wonder how it would affect their temperment.

Also is it me or do more people seem to have Vizslas these days or is it because I notice them more now that I've got one? A bit like you notice people who have the same car as yourself.

 

 

Swampy

 

 

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The first wire haired one's i saw wer owned by a chap called clint his wer strong types the one up scotland was smooth but very racey it looked more like a redbone coon hound with a full tail wich i thought looked better than a docked one.Its definatly a dog i would like to own one day.atvb
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Oh and I forgot to mention its my land!

No harm is done to any of my game unless I deem fit.

 

 

 

Swampy

 

 

Ninging still

Yeh cool its your land but you lot totally miss the point as i said STRESS & DISTURBANCE can cause serious impact on nesting birds & general wildlife. Its that attatude of its my lad that makes it ok then despite the distress caused that makes it ok fair enough SORRY. Why you think the right to roam act stipulates that dogs should be on a lead at said time of year. Stress is a killer on nesting birds you only need to go to a happy hen/free range egg laying facility to show how the egg production goes down when charlie starts to do the rounds due to STRESS. I am a dog owner myself & under stand bringing on youngs dogs as i struggle myself when in the position as its not down to a lack of ground just my care & respect to my land for the wildlife on it that i want there come season.

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Oh and I forgot to mention its my land!

No harm is done to any of my game unless I deem fit.

 

 

 

Swampy

 

 

Ninging still

Yeh cool its your land but you lot totally miss the point as i said STRESS & DISTURBANCE can cause serious impact on nesting birds & general wildlife. Its that attatude of its my lad that makes it ok then despite the distress caused that makes it ok fair enough SORRY. Why you think the right to roam act stipulates that dogs should be on a lead at said time of year. Stress is a killer on nesting birds you only need to go to a happy hen/free range egg laying facility to show how the egg production goes down when charlie starts to do the rounds due to STRESS. I am a dog owner myself & under stand bringing on youngs dogs as i struggle myself when in the position as its not down to a lack of ground just my care & respect to my land for the wildlife on it that i want there come season.

 

Don't go walking at all then.

Do you think that shooting rabbit doesn't have the same effect on nesting birds? You still have to keep them down. Along with the Magpies and squirrels. If you control that then the wild birds have a far better chance (and I'm not talking about game birds.) and rather that than worrying about a few "stressed" birds. Birds are continually under stress its their life and their way to survive, be it from charlie, magpies, stoat etc etc Pheasant are continually harrassed by charlie, those that don't get caught are the fit ones. Its natures way.

In relation to the right to roam act. You have to ask why dogs should be kept on leads at this time of year? Could it be that to appease the land owners who opposed this act it was introduced as a way of compromise. May also have something to do with the lambing season (just a thought whilst typing). I have every respect for the natural indiginent wildlife on my land and will not accept any abuse of it. Walking my dog accross my land off the lead has had no ill effects or impact on the wildlife. I am fortunate enough to have wild partridge (as opposed to reared.........well not by me anyway) I don't shoot wild game on my land (others land for that) I also have lapwing, quail,pheasant, stoat, hare, deer (both roe and muntjak occaisionally) and unfortunately lots of rabbit and a very persistent dog fox who my mate hasn't been able to nail. I know where there are rare orchid and I have English Bluebell I have to make sure that these aren't poached by flower pickers. On top of that I have roach and Rudd in a small natural lake which my daughter introduced nearly 7 years ago at the age of 4. There is at present an abundance (too many) geese, mallard coot and moorhen that use the lake. I have a problem with rats here which I shoot regularly The geese are raising their young and are still there despite being startled by my gun on a daily basis I shoot rabbit, rats, squirrels , corvid, and have even tried having a pop at Reynard on occaision yet I still have a thriving population of wildlife.

I don't mean to be rude but please do not presume that just because I can and will walk my land whenever I want that I have no respect or am unaware of my beautiful surroundings and that by doing so I am abusing it. Hopefully when my dog is fully trianed he will be of invaluble assistence to me in making sure that my land continues to thrive.

 

Thank You for your patience whilst I had my rant

 

 

Swampy

 

 

 

Ninging politely

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  • 2 months later...
Oh and I forgot to mention its my land!

No harm is done to any of my game unless I deem fit.

 

 

 

Swampy

 

 

Ninging still

Yeh cool its your land but you lot totally miss the point as i said STRESS & DISTURBANCE can cause serious impact on nesting birds & general wildlife. Its that attatude of its my lad that makes it ok then despite the distress caused that makes it ok fair enough SORRY. Why you think the right to roam act stipulates that dogs should be on a lead at said time of year. Stress is a killer on nesting birds you only need to go to a happy hen/free range egg laying facility to show how the egg production goes down when charlie starts to do the rounds due to STRESS. I am a dog owner myself & under stand bringing on youngs dogs as i struggle myself when in the position as its not down to a lack of ground just my care & respect to my land for the wildlife on it that i want there come season.

 

Don't go walking at all then.

Do you think that shooting rabbit doesn't have the same effect on nesting birds? You still have to keep them down. Along with the Magpies and squirrels. If you control that then the wild birds have a far better chance (and I'm not talking about game birds.) and rather that than worrying about a few "stressed" birds. Birds are continually under stress its their life and their way to survive, be it from charlie, magpies, stoat etc etc Pheasant are continually harrassed by charlie, those that don't get caught are the fit ones. Its natures way.

In relation to the right to roam act. You have to ask why dogs should be kept on leads at this time of year? Could it be that to appease the land owners who opposed this act it was introduced as a way of compromise. May also have something to do with the lambing season (just a thought whilst typing). I have every respect for the natural indiginent wildlife on my land and will not accept any abuse of it. Walking my dog accross my land off the lead has had no ill effects or impact on the wildlife. I am fortunate enough to have wild partridge (as opposed to reared.........well not by me anyway) I don't shoot wild game on my land (others land for that) I also have lapwing, quail,pheasant, stoat, hare, deer (both roe and muntjak occaisionally) and unfortunately lots of rabbit and a very persistent dog fox who my mate hasn't been able to nail. I know where there are rare orchid and I have English Bluebell I have to make sure that these aren't poached by flower pickers. On top of that I have roach and Rudd in a small natural lake which my daughter introduced nearly 7 years ago at the age of 4. There is at present an abundance (too many) geese, mallard coot and moorhen that use the lake. I have a problem with rats here which I shoot regularly The geese are raising their young and are still there despite being startled by my gun on a daily basis I shoot rabbit, rats, squirrels , corvid, and have even tried having a pop at Reynard on occaision yet I still have a thriving population of wildlife.

I don't mean to be rude but please do not presume that just because I can and will walk my land whenever I want that I have no respect or am unaware of my beautiful surroundings and that by doing so I am abusing it. Hopefully when my dog is fully trianed he will be of invaluble assistence to me in making sure that my land continues to thrive.

 

Thank You for your patience whilst I had my rant

 

 

Swampy

 

 

 

Ninging politely

 

Well said!

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Good thread swampy and a nice looking pup, good luck with his training but it sounds as if he is coming on well.

 

I shoot vermin all year round on keepered land and the pests need knocking back this time of the year as well, iam keeping off the high fells at the minuet as the grouse are breeding, also if i come across some partridges i try to leave that area alone, but the keeper is still counting birds with his dogs now.

Luckily i have a lot of land to go at so everyone's happy.

Dave.

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