Guest dances Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 they have the cheek to put up a diet sheet.lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chimp 299 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 peddlars suck lol they will be running them at gamefairs soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farlap 19 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hi mate. My Mother got a king Charles out of one of thease Fecking dog farms about ten years ago.It was a walking vet bill for six years till it drop dead.ATB.Catcher 1 at least they health test. thee are plenty of breders who dont. if they were puppy farmers then they wouldnt bother with L2/GHA & HC I take your point, at least they say they health test, but that is undoubtedly a puppy farming operation, whether intentionally or not. The whole site is about puppies, breeding them and selling them. Have just noticed they charge £250 to use their dog at stud, and the deposit on a pup is £200 ........... but they wanted their collars etc off me cheap, am glad I said no thanks. Peddlers!!! well its unlike any puppy farming operation i have ever seen if it is!!! They offer advise on feeding, and they health test the parents, they have dogs as part of the family....clearly you have no idea of what a puppy farm is!!! A puppy farm churns out non registered pups by the bucket load, they live in crates or a solitary kennel life(and not just one breed but several breeds,) none are health tested, they certainly dont give a dam wahat you feed it on or offer any advise. I certainly wouldnt call these folk a puppy farm!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I dunno farlap, I haven't looked at the staffy site so can't comment but I knwo someone who breeds 3/4 litters a year of chocolate labs, they are well reared and looked after but they are bred purely or profit, is this puppy farming? In my eyes yes it is.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hi mate. My Mother got a king Charles out of one of thease Fecking dog farms about ten years ago.It was a walking vet bill for six years till it drop dead.ATB.Catcher 1 at least they health test. thee are plenty of breders who dont. if they were puppy farmers then they wouldnt bother with L2/GHA & HC I take your point, at least they say they health test, but that is undoubtedly a puppy farming operation, whether intentionally or not. The whole site is about puppies, breeding them and selling them. Have just noticed they charge £250 to use their dog at stud, and the deposit on a pup is £200 ........... but they wanted their collars etc off me cheap, am glad I said no thanks. Peddlers!!! well its unlike any puppy farming operation i have ever seen if it is!!! They offer advise on feeding, and they health test the parents, they have dogs as part of the family....clearly you have no idea of what a puppy farm is!!! A puppy farm churns out non registered pups by the bucket load, they live in crates or a solitary kennel life(and not just one breed but several breeds,) none are health tested, they certainly dont give a dam wahat you feed it on or offer any advise. I certainly wouldnt call these folk a puppy farm!!! So what are you saying? That it is acceptable to breed the back out of dogs as they do? Clearly our views differ, the bottom line is though, they are peddlers, plain and simple. Could it be that the advice etc given on the website is there to distract from their over breeding? To give a veneer of respectability to their operation? Who's definition of puppy farm are we using? You wouldn't know them by any chance would you??? You seem a little keen to defend them!!!!! Look, I can over use punctuation too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farlap 19 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hi mate. My Mother got a king Charles out of one of thease Fecking dog farms about ten years ago.It was a walking vet bill for six years till it drop dead.ATB.Catcher 1 at least they health test. thee are plenty of breders who dont. if they were puppy farmers then they wouldnt bother with L2/GHA & HC I take your point, at least they say they health test, but that is undoubtedly a puppy farming operation, whether intentionally or not. The whole site is about puppies, breeding them and selling them. Have just noticed they charge £250 to use their dog at stud, and the deposit on a pup is £200 ........... but they wanted their collars etc off me cheap, am glad I said no thanks. Peddlers!!! well its unlike any puppy farming operation i have ever seen if it is!!! They offer advise on feeding, and they health test the parents, they have dogs as part of the family....clearly you have no idea of what a puppy farm is!!! A puppy farm churns out non registered pups by the bucket load, they live in crates or a solitary kennel life(and not just one breed but several breeds,) none are health tested, they certainly dont give a dam wahat you feed it on or offer any advise. I certainly wouldnt call these folk a puppy farm!!! So what are you saying? That it is acceptable to breed the back out of dogs as they do? Clearly our views differ, the bottom line is though, they are peddlers, plain and simple. Could it be that the advice etc given on the website is there to distract from their over breeding? To give a veneer of respectability to their operation? Who's definition of puppy farm are we using? You wouldn't know them by any chance would you??? You seem a little keen to defend them!!!!! Look, I can over use punctuation too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no idea if our views differ over what constitutes breeding/peddling,as I dont know you from Adam, however i personally dont believe in any breed being bred from without the relevant health tests recommended for the specific breed, and I despise people breeding from pets who are substandard and do so purely for financial gain. I have absolutely no idea who they are or where in the country they are. I know a lot of staffy folk but their affix is not familiar to me. I must admit i didnt read the whole site (I have a life to live!) and maybe I overlooked the pages where it shows they are over breeding.....can you tell me on which pages it shows them breeding "the backs out of" the dogs, as Id be very interested to know....they are listed as members of the ABS so obviously if there is something that suggests they are overbreeding this would need looking into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,800 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Got this email recently, have left it unanswered until just now: Hi I really like the look of your Everlast collars.What widths do they come in & what price are they.We own & breed Staffords,weave six at present & will also have a well visited website http://www.bluestafford.com Please take a look when you get a chance,We would be happy to recommend your collars verbally to people who buy our pups or use our stud dog,we would also put your web address on our site,here comes the cheeky bit!!! what's the best price for kitting our pack out with collars ,leads & a harnesses,We don't expect charity but a good deal is a win win situation,hope you didn't mind us asking. [/size] P.S We also have a French bulldog who might look good in the little pink & black number!!!??? If you look at their website: http://www.bluestafford.com Hopefully some will agree with my reply: Hi, I would prefer not to have my gear linked from your site, I've just had a look and the breeding of dogs for either financial gain or based on coat colour isn't something I'd want to be associated with. Thanks for your email. A Am sure their reply will be interesting ............ I'd be the biggest hypocrite ever if I made them their gear and had a link from their site, look at their so called stud dog ......... looks like a walrus!!!!! What is so special about that dog that he is considered good enough to sire loads of pups, apart from his colour that is, beats me why people pay more for a grey dog!? No doubt I just made another friend!? I hate peddlers!!!!! That email has probably just cost me the best part of £300, but my integrity is uncompromised! Opinions welcome. A, just read all the posts now mate, principles don't pay the bills, charge 'em 4x over and feck 'em. Cheers, D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi mate. My Mother got a king Charles out of one of thease Fecking dog farms about ten years ago.It was a walking vet bill for six years till it drop dead.ATB.Catcher 1 at least they health test. thee are plenty of breders who dont. if they were puppy farmers then they wouldnt bother with L2/GHA & HC I take your point, at least they say they health test, but that is undoubtedly a puppy farming operation, whether intentionally or not. The whole site is about puppies, breeding them and selling them. Have just noticed they charge £250 to use their dog at stud, and the deposit on a pup is £200 ........... but they wanted their collars etc off me cheap, am glad I said no thanks. Peddlers!!! well its unlike any puppy farming operation i have ever seen if it is!!! They offer advise on feeding, and they health test the parents, they have dogs as part of the family....clearly you have no idea of what a puppy farm is!!! A puppy farm churns out non registered pups by the bucket load, they live in crates or a solitary kennel life(and not just one breed but several breeds,) none are health tested, they certainly dont give a dam wahat you feed it on or offer any advise. I certainly wouldnt call these folk a puppy farm!!! So what are you saying? That it is acceptable to breed the back out of dogs as they do? Clearly our views differ, the bottom line is though, they are peddlers, plain and simple. Could it be that the advice etc given on the website is there to distract from their over breeding? To give a veneer of respectability to their operation? Who's definition of puppy farm are we using? You wouldn't know them by any chance would you??? You seem a little keen to defend them!!!!! Look, I can over use punctuation too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no idea if our views differ over what constitutes breeding/peddling,as I dont know you from Adam, however i personally dont believe in any breed being bred from without the relevant health tests recommended for the specific breed, and I despise people breeding from pets who are substandard and do so purely for financial gain. I have absolutely no idea who they are or where in the country they are. I know a lot of staffy folk but their affix is not familiar to me. I must admit i didnt read the whole site (I have a life to live!) and maybe I overlooked the pages where it shows they are over breeding.....can you tell me on which pages it shows them breeding "the backs out of" the dogs, as Id be very interested to know....they are listed as members of the ABS so obviously if there is something that suggests they are overbreeding this would need looking into. I'm not looking for an argument here, but I think our views are very different as the higlighted text above points out (to me) To suggest that because a "breeder" (hate that word as it implies respectability) is a member of a Kennel Club scheme, therefore there is no problem with them churning out litter after litter of puppies bred for no other reason than their coat colour is in my view naive (sp?) You are surely not saying that the Kennel Club has the animals best interests at heart? If you are then I would hope one day you'll see the reality, litter after litter bred and sold for stupid prices, saves "breeders" working for a living I suppose ........... My own view (and I believe the right one) is that only the best examples of breeds should be put together, and only then to further a line of exceptional animals, That big fat blue dog does not look like a particularly good example of it's breed to me, if it was brown would they be breeding off it constantly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 A, just read all the posts now mate, principles don't pay the bills, charge 'em 4x over and feck 'em. Cheers, D Well D, in that case I'll be able to at least have my dignity when I'm sleeping in a cardboard box ............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plummer1 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 A, just read all the posts now mate, principles don't pay the bills, charge 'em 4x over and feck 'em. Cheers, D Well D, in that case I'll be able to at least have my dignity when I'm sleeping in a cardboard box ............ well said ss i would rather have my morals intact than a pocket full of cash, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farlap 19 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi mate. My Mother got a king Charles out of one of thease Fecking dog farms about ten years ago.It was a walking vet bill for six years till it drop dead.ATB.Catcher 1 at least they health test. thee are plenty of breders who dont. if they were puppy farmers then they wouldnt bother with L2/GHA & HC I take your point, at least they say they health test, but that is undoubtedly a puppy farming operation, whether intentionally or not. The whole site is about puppies, breeding them and selling them. Have just noticed they charge £250 to use their dog at stud, and the deposit on a pup is £200 ........... but they wanted their collars etc off me cheap, am glad I said no thanks. Peddlers!!! well its unlike any puppy farming operation i have ever seen if it is!!! They offer advise on feeding, and they health test the parents, they have dogs as part of the family....clearly you have no idea of what a puppy farm is!!! A puppy farm churns out non registered pups by the bucket load, they live in crates or a solitary kennel life(and not just one breed but several breeds,) none are health tested, they certainly dont give a dam wahat you feed it on or offer any advise. I certainly wouldnt call these folk a puppy farm!!! So what are you saying? That it is acceptable to breed the back out of dogs as they do? Clearly our views differ, the bottom line is though, they are peddlers, plain and simple. Could it be that the advice etc given on the website is there to distract from their over breeding? To give a veneer of respectability to their operation? Who's definition of puppy farm are we using? You wouldn't know them by any chance would you??? You seem a little keen to defend them!!!!! Look, I can over use punctuation too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no idea if our views differ over what constitutes breeding/peddling,as I dont know you from Adam, however i personally dont believe in any breed being bred from without the relevant health tests recommended for the specific breed, and I despise people breeding from pets who are substandard and do so purely for financial gain. I have absolutely no idea who they are or where in the country they are. I know a lot of staffy folk but their affix is not familiar to me. I must admit i didnt read the whole site (I have a life to live!) and maybe I overlooked the pages where it shows they are over breeding.....can you tell me on which pages it shows them breeding "the backs out of" the dogs, as Id be very interested to know....they are listed as members of the ABS so obviously if there is something that suggests they are overbreeding this would need looking into. I'm not looking for an argument here, but I think our views are very different as the higlighted text above points out (to me) To suggest that because a "breeder" (hate that word as it implies respectability) is a member of a Kennel Club scheme, therefore there is no problem with them churning out litter after litter of puppies bred for no other reason than their coat colour is in my view naive (sp?) You are surely not saying that the Kennel Club has the animals best interests at heart? If you are then I would hope one day you'll see the reality, litter after litter bred and sold for stupid prices, saves "breeders" working for a living I suppose ........... My own view (and I believe the right one) is that only the best examples of breeds should be put together, and only then to further a line of exceptional animals, That big fat blue dog does not look like a particularly good example of it's breed to me, if it was brown would they be breeding off it constantly? Likewise no desire to argue, just wanted to be pointed to the page that says they are continuously breeding as I didnt notice it thats all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Got this email recently, have left it unanswered until just now: Hi I really like the look of your Everlast collars.What widths do they come in & what price are they.We own & breed Staffords,weave six at present & will also have a well visited website http://www.bluestafford.com Please take a look when you get a chance,We would be happy to recommend your collars verbally to people who buy our pups or use our stud dog,we would also put your web address on our site,here comes the cheeky bit!!! what's the best price for kitting our pack out with collars ,leads & a harnesses,We don't expect charity but a good deal is a win win situation,hope you didn't mind us asking. [/size] P.S We also have a French bulldog who might look good in the little pink & black number!!!??? If you look at their website: http://www.bluestafford.com Hopefully some will agree with my reply: Hi, I would prefer not to have my gear linked from your site, I've just had a look and the breeding of dogs for either financial gain or based on coat colour isn't something I'd want to be associated with. Thanks for your email. A Am sure their reply will be interesting ............ I'd be the biggest hypocrite ever if I made them their gear and had a link from their site, look at their so called stud dog ......... looks like a walrus!!!!! What is so special about that dog that he is considered good enough to sire loads of pups, apart from his colour that is, beats me why people pay more for a grey dog!? No doubt I just made another friend!? I hate peddlers!!!!! That email has probably just cost me the best part of £300, but my integrity is uncompromised! Opinions welcome. ya big girl!!!! but with "true grit" as ever :clapper: feck 'em Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,217 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 i notice you make no distinction about selling collars to all the bull cross lads who go to shows with some great slavering beast of a show dog with a dark shiny coat and bulging muscles, who then bang on about what great lines there from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Likewise no desire to argue, just wanted to be pointed to the page that says they are continuously breeding as I didnt notice it thats all You only need flick through it to see what they are.....and thats clearly lazy shitbags who have replaced honest work with flogging second rate dogs as a trend to gullible fools......read through even a quarter of the site !.... As a great dogman once said....... " never be a fool to your own intelligence ! " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 As a great dogman once said....... " never be a fool to your own intelligence ! " Another one ....... "A good dog is never a bad colour" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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