RWDSteve 0 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Over the years I've heard people sometimes refer to Ferrets as Pole Cats. I googled it and all I could find was that Pole Cats are the wild versions of Ferrets. While a mate of mine reckons Albino's are Pole Cats... So what's the real answer? Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) Over the years I've heard people sometimes refer to Ferrets as Pole Cats. I googled it and all I could find was that Pole Cats are the wild versions of Ferrets. While a mate of mine reckons Albino's are Pole Cats... So what's the real answer? real polecats are the wild versions of ferrets. people refer to normal ferrets as polecats on the basis of colourings although most ferrets will have some loads of different genes in them and will make kits of various colours. All ferrets will have real polecat back in their ancestry at some point. albino ferts are just the white ones with red eyes. like you get albino humans or anything. hope this helps Edited May 9, 2009 by lapin2008 Quote Link to post
howler 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 over in aus polecats are ferretts that are alot bigger then the standard size ferrett,normally twice the size if not bigger,,,jas Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 As allready stated, in general, the term Ferret or polecat refers to colouring these days. They can interbreed. The ferret in the top pic being an albino/polecat cross. This being a ferret This being a polecat (masked marking) Quote Link to post
The one 8,511 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 I reckon the original ferrets would have been polecats and as they where domesticated people have bred in the differnt colours Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Basically its a ferret with the polecat markings ie the mask & darker legs Quote Link to post
Vissertje 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 I always found this very confusing as well in the Englisch language. In this case (and probably in this case only ), we're better of in Holland. A wild polecat is called a 'bunzing', a ferret is called a 'fret', a first, second or third degree crossbreed between the two is called a 'frunzing' (bunzing combined with fret) and a ferret with the markings of a wild polecat is called a 'wildkleur' (litteral translation: wildcolour). Since the ferret is the domesticated version of the wild polecat, all of them have polecat blood in them on some level. By the way, in my personal opinion, its pointless to deliberately create crossbreeds in ferrets and polecats. A quick strong jill ferret can get practicly every rabbit to bolt. My 5-year old jill is 'pure' ferret, weighs about 900 grams in the winter and she gets everything out of the den. I also have a first degree crossbreed from ferret and wild polecat. I never take him out ferreting. He will probably bite me when he has a rabbit or when I want to pick him up when he's sticks his head out of the den. And above that, he's far too strong in my opinion. When I just got him, he bit me a few times so I know how much strength he's got (in the jaws). When using him, I'd probably have to dig at about 75% of the dens. And now I haven't even started about the problems you could have in keeping these animals which live between two worlds. (However, if we get such a crossbreed in the shelter, i see it as a personal challenge to be able to gain its trust and to handle this animal since only a few people can) So breeding these animals, no thanks I know this was off-topic but since I was still talking about ferrets, it's just a bit off-topic so I'm sure you guys won't mind Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) I always found this very confusing as well in the Englisch language. In this case (and probably in this case only ), By the way, in my personal opinion, its pointless to deliberately create crossbreeds in ferrets and polecats. A quick strong jill ferret can get practicly every rabbit to bolt. My 5-year old jill is 'pure' ferret, weighs about 900 grams in the winter and she gets everything out of the den. I also have a first degree crossbreed from ferret and wild polecat. I never take him out ferreting. He will probably bite me when he has a rabbit or when I want to pick him up when he's sticks his head out of the den. And above that, he's far too strong in my opinion. When I just got him, he bit me a few times so I know how much strength he's got (in the jaws). When using him, I'd probably have to dig at about 75% of the dens. And now I haven't even started about the problems you could have in keeping these animals which live between two worlds. (However, if we get such a crossbreed in the shelter, i see it as a personal challenge to be able to gain its trust and to handle this animal since only a few people can) So breeding these animals, no thanks I know this was off-topic but since I was still talking about ferrets, it's just a bit off-topic so I'm sure you guys won't mind Agree with this regarding deliberate crosses between wild polecats and ferrets. you often see people trying to flog ferrets stating they are 'wild polecats' or first crosses. IMO these do not offer anything to hunting more then a bog standard ferret other then the novelty of having a wild one. Any you just increase your chances of getting bitten owning one let alone trying to get hold of one post work. atb Edited May 9, 2009 by lapin2008 Quote Link to post
RWDSteve 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Thanks guys, I was sure the ones with markings on were refered to as Pole Cat types. Thanks for the bonus information all the way from Holland too Time to put my clever dick mate in his place! Quote Link to post
btehan 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 over in aus polecats are ferretts that are alot bigger then the standard size ferrett,normally twice the size if not bigger,,,jas What planet are you from??? Quote Link to post
howler 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 over in aus polecats are ferretts that are alot bigger then the standard size ferrett,normally twice the size if not bigger,,,jas What planet are you from??? mate ,ive had ferrets for over 20 years ,and had great success breeding and selling them ,,and i stick to what ive said in my previous post ,,,,and ive got 2 males that are twice as big as the standard sizes and i even get comments from people who are buying them saying they are polecats as well ,,,so crawl back under ya rock until you know the truth ,, Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Daring to step between two drawn swords here: but isn't it more likely that your large polecats are large simply because they have come from a strain of large ferrets? Ferrets do vary in size a lot and a lot of the show ones here are huge! Quote Link to post
max abell 196 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 I agree with skycat a mate of mine a few years ago had a albino hob and it was massive and i do mean big we nick named it otter because of its size !! And to this day never seen a ferret anywhere near the size of it But in all fairness it did work ok and would work all day long without tireing if you wanted it to Quote Link to post
howler 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 i do apolagise to you guys for my outburst ,but we call the ones you refer to as polecats ,sables, anyway i could be wrong about polecats but thats just what myself and a lot of people that buy off me and mates as well refer too them as ,,jas Quote Link to post
max abell 196 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 i do apolagise to you guys for my outburst ,but we call the ones you refer to as polecats ,sables, anyway i could be wrong about polecats but thats just what myself and a lot of people that buy off me and mates as well refer too them as ,,jas Hi mate so you might av made a mistake so what who hasant Good for you for appoligising that takes a real MAN Quote Link to post
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