solostoke 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 its a blast from the past mate,my grandad had 1 when i was a kid,it was a right tough little fecker,it was a awesome worker rats rabbit,did charlie for fun and lived to a ripe old age of 11,sadly tho i think theyve gone the same way as a lot of other working terrier breeds,either ruined by the crufts lot or sadly no longer exist,i hope you find some working strain out there cos if my grandads dog is owt go by they were very handy dogs how an earth would crufts ruin a breed ? lol its a show where the dogs are breed to the absolute best quality with years of pedigree generations , if anything it promotes the breed to the very best of what it is , have you tryed looking for a pure manchester terrier ? http://www.epupz.co.uk/puppiesforsale/all_...r%20Terrier.asp here you go mate all the best yeh i suppose youre right,the lakies that enter crufts look the absolute best quality,i bet they could work allday everyday :crazy: so a dog thats shown has no ability to work and no basic instinct to hunt ? no, but they breed best looker to best looker whereas we breed best worker to best worker. what do you think will work best??? Quote Link to post
emeera 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 thts rubish i quote whats in the dog makes the quality of the dog what it is , what you put into the dog makes the dog what it is Quote Link to post
Mars 42 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 let me know if you get one im considering it myself lol im not, jus got space for the 1 dog. but my mates dog would be up for stud!!! Maybe it`s a good idea, perhaps you could post a pic of the dog, and tell us more about it, i.e. height, weight, and what type of work it`s done.... Mars... Quote Link to post
solostoke 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 thts rubish i quote whats in the dog makes the quality of the dog what it is , what you put into the dog makes the dog what it is so you would breed for looks or working ability from a good 3+year old proven dogs?? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,480 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Crufts HAS ruined many breeds of dogs !!! That is why the BBC, Pedigree Petfoods, the RSPC and The Dogs Trust have all pulled out of supporting Crufts !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
solostoke 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 let me know if you get one im considering it myself lol im not, jus got space for the 1 dog. but my mates dog would be up for stud!!! Maybe it`s a good idea, perhaps you could post a pic of the dog, and tell us more about it, i.e. height, weight, and what type of work it`s done.... Mars... il get some pics but it is a "standard" kc dog from breeders. jus trying to find out if many have had this cross??? p.s. its seen lots of rats and it comes ferreting and for a mooch on the lamp. Quote Link to post
Mars 42 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Crufts HAS ruined many breeds of dogs !!! That is why the BBC, Pedigree Petfoods, the RSPC and The Dogs Trust have all pulled out of supporting Crufts !!Cheers. Crufts is just a show,!!!! Fashion, poor breed standards, and peoples interpritation of those breeds standards is whats ruined many pedigree breeds. Mars.. Quote Link to post
emeera 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 thts rubish i quote whats in the dog makes the quality of the dog what it is , what you put into the dog makes the dog what it is so you would breed for looks or working ability from a good 3+year old proven dogs?? i wouldnt just get a dog to breed Quote Link to post
solostoke 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 thts rubish i quote whats in the dog makes the quality of the dog what it is , what you put into the dog makes the dog what it is so you would breed for looks or working ability from a good 3+year old proven dogs?? i wouldnt just get a dog to breed lol neither would i. but do you understand my point?? Quote Link to post
glamour 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 i thought dobermans were originally a manchester terrier/greyhound cross? Quote Link to post
craigyboy 1,274 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Crufts HAS ruined many breeds of dogs !!! That is why the BBC, Pedigree Petfoods, the RSPC and The Dogs Trust have all pulled out of supporting Crufts !!Cheers. Crufts is just a show,!!!! Fashion, poor breed standards, and peoples interpritation of those breeds standards is whats ruined many pedigree breeds. Mars.. Quote Link to post
glamour 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 its a blast from the past mate,my grandad had 1 when i was a kid,it was a right tough little fecker,it was a awesome worker rats rabbit,did charlie for fun and lived to a ripe old age of 11,sadly tho i think theyve gone the same way as a lot of other working terrier breeds,either ruined by the crufts lot or sadly no longer exist,i hope you find some working strain out there cos if my grandads dog is owt go by they were very handy dogs how an earth would crufts ruin a breed ? lol its a show where the dogs are breed to the absolute best quality with years of pedigree generations , if anything it promotes the breed to the very best of what it is , have you tryed looking for a pure manchester terrier ? http://www.epupz.co.uk/puppiesforsale/all_...r%20Terrier.asp here you go mate all the best What a stupid comment. Quote Link to post
craigyboy 1,274 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 its a blast from the past mate,my grandad had 1 when i was a kid,it was a right tough little fecker,it was a awesome worker rats rabbit,did charlie for fun and lived to a ripe old age of 11,sadly tho i think theyve gone the same way as a lot of other working terrier breeds,either ruined by the crufts lot or sadly no longer exist,i hope you find some working strain out there cos if my grandads dog is owt go by they were very handy dogs how an earth would crufts ruin a breed ? lol its a show where the dogs are breed to the absolute best quality with years of pedigree generations , if anything it promotes the breed to the very best of what it is , have you tryed looking for a pure manchester terrier ? http://www.epupz.co.uk/puppiesforsale/all_...r%20Terrier.asp here you go mate all the best What a stupid comment. your right glamour mate,thats unless you were on about my comment Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,480 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Crufts HAS ruined many breeds of dogs !!! That is why the BBC, Pedigree Petfoods, the RSPC and The Dogs Trust have all pulled out of supporting Crufts !!Cheers. Crufts is just a show,!!!! Fashion, poor breed standards, and peoples interpritation of those breeds standards is whats ruined many pedigree breeds. Mars.. Crufts could improve the breed quality and health of many spoilt breeds, such as King Charles Spaniels, English Bulldogs, Bassetts, etc., simply by refusing such breeds entry to their show, until the breeds improved in health and confomation. Cheers. Quote Link to post
solostoke 1 Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 good point boys, and yeah dobermans came out of manchester terriers. dont know if it was by greyhounds though...... Quote Link to post
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