i got the first box of remington v max in northern ireland, and yes they where sub 1" groups and the best stoppers in .22mag, but they still drop off a lot. have heard good and bad reports on the foam but i will stick with the m pro as i was told it was very good and it was i always run the snake through after shooting any way and only use the m pro and patches when gun goes off and i think its about 600 or 700 rounds my best group off the roof of van with a bag you could cover 5 shots with 5pence but you know yourself days you will be better than others and if your 1" or 3/4" theres not much