getting an air rifle to try for some permissions plus have been told the sire and dam were only used for bushing so will look into getting an sgc some time in the future if he shows any interest in entering, have a converted loft which seems like the perfect place for a gun clamp to go , does anyone one here have any contacts for the Northumberland and Durham working terrier club, seems like a good idea to go along and meet some people before the pups up enough to start anything,