southcoast I agree with every thing you said. we know a good dog man can make a pup from anything but you cant beet breeding to lessen the odds of failure the money asked may be to much but the feeling success brings is priceless. however ive seen so called top men pay top money and the dog goes backwards so spending big wont guarantee success. so 100 or a 1000 you pays your money you takes your chance regards two crows.