Thankyou very much, i was a bit dubious about this bird at first, the place i got her wasnt good at all, she was kept in a 6x4 garden shed that still had all the tools in it and had no space, she was terrified of the fella and looked a bit of a state, you may ask why i bought her and i still dont no myself i think pity more than anything, not the right reason to buy i no,but ive had her since last saturday and she is manning down well very steady, non footy and silent, i have brought her weight down gradually, she is now flying the full length of the creance to me, with best responce at 2.2.2-