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Everything posted by Accip74
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I don't mean in general mate, that would be crazy! But when the cross is that specific, do you need a top coursing greyhound x a gamedog pitbull to produce a fox killer?? I'm not big fan of Hancock, but it really depends what your expectations are for a running dog
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This is so true, the man is only putting together components to produce a machine that does a job, if you can't do anything with a 3/4 greyhound collie taken from 8 weeks then look at your own handling skills, of course the fact that it's a dog factory is an ethical issue, but I don't think it matters there not produced from workers
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Some great looking dogs guys, I think people forget that's all you need to do certain jobs. My first lucher was a whippet / bedlington when I was 11, my dad got me to ring up & order it myself from a well known breeder of them types at the time. I never done great things with him, but it was a steep learning curve for me........especially when I got home from school one day to find my dad had sold him! I was heartbroken.....but he had warned me that's what he would do if I didn't put the work in to it..........never made that mistake again
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Is this worst case scenario? Lol
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When I first read the question, I thought why not? the I started reading the posts, I haven't run a dog in years, but when I lamped as a youg man I was chuffed to come back with half a dozen lol........... Mind u I walked to all the fields from the house, after a few rabbits, a big deben battery & walking miles out & realising you had to walk back,on a mild night,I was f***** , not the dog................50 rabbits? I don't think I would had the inclination to go on after 10!.........I'll get my coat
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I don't think it is much to do with livestock, cast your minds back & try & remember any stories in the national press about thuggish falconers or shooting men marauding over people's land & then remember the ones about lurcher & terrier men.....need I say anymore? Public perception.......I love lurcher & terrier work, but it just attracts f****** imbeciles
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Yeh it was the head that remained me of pics of old style working fox terriers (especially in Africa )
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You'd be surprised what I got away with at boots actually, usually used the '1 hour' service & just hoped for the best! The worst that happened was I got a few more graphic photo's blanked , this is terrier work I'm talking here stig, not your soft porn..... That bitch looks very fox terrier like stig, reminds me of a old type fox terrier bitch my family had in SA in 82''
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Boredom could be a factor, try an hour in the morning if you have the time, I've had fell types, especially dogs that can appear pretty full on at this age & beyond lol,these same dogs are often slow to mature & can often take a while to calm down for reliable work....but it's defo an inherent trait with some of these, bare with him, he could turn into something great in time....ATB
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Morning Mooch In The Woods With Pup
Accip74 replied to Stokespringer21's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Ha! I weren't expecting that reply.....be interesting to see how that pans out -
Sorry that's right 'decoy' dogs, I was impressed, it was a new one on me
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I don't no why, but I've always had a soft spot for miniature wire haired dachshunds, maybe it goes back to Teddy Moritz hunting with them, but whenever I see one.....it's a guilty pleasure.......maybe I got to get a grip!
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No,it is definitely a different mentality to hawks when approaching some people, you are viewed differently no doubt. I got into hawks about 8 years ago, but come from a background of terrier work & lurchers, the attitude change is huge! You can talk to absolutely anyone about hawking & they will be fascinated, but I rarely gave details about terrier & lurchers work over the years to non- hunters. It's a shame but true....
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I very recently come across a guy on utube who was using 'lure' dogs when shooting coyotes from a call stand, I'd never imagined this concept before, he sent the dog out on sight & then there was a bit of cat & mouse, sometimes mixing it to bring the coyote in for the shot! Is this common to you guys out there?
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We took many foxes with collie crosses as young lads, mate I grew up with had a 1/8border 1/8 beardie 3/4 greyhound from Hancock a fantastic single handed fox dog before bull x mania! He had 3 in a night on more than one occasion, when we started hearing about the bull x's, we were thinking overkill? Especially the guys that double them up on foxes lol.........
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Morning Mooch In The Woods With Pup
Accip74 replied to Stokespringer21's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Well good luck on that one, making me want a running dog again!!! What's his breeding? -
Morning Mooch In The Woods With Pup
Accip74 replied to Stokespringer21's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
I love that colouring, what are plans for him? -
Are they still found on the fens?
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Morning Mooch In The Woods With Pup
Accip74 replied to Stokespringer21's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Cracking looking dog mate! How old? -
Suppose a bit of 'ego' added to the mix can create your own line aswell
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Well yeh that goes back to my original point, in my own experiance we never took things far enough not to stop referring to them as bloggs/smith lines, it would of took several years of breeding to line & back out to be able to claim our own.....I think....
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It was a joke mate......not particuly funny, but a joke all the same.........I've heard many a guy referring to his own strain without any real substance to it ATB
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When you go round calling it the 'the stig' strain lol........for example....
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The interesting thing is the definition of 'line', yeh you could breed 3 generations of dogs, starting with your two, breed a bitch & 3 years later breed from her & so on...... But if your not sourcing dogs that are in some way related to your original stock when lining said birches, in 3 generations I don't think you've created anything.....your just breeding terriers. It would be interesting to hear peoples definition of 'a line' ATB
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Good question, it should take many years and many generations to accurately describe creating a line, at some point you have to decide when to breed back to related stock etc pups produced should be proven before breeding from them, realistically a minimum of 3 years (although many don't) blah blah blah unless you have a lot of stock on the go, it's gonna take many years & many tried & tested dogs, unless you start inbreeding first generation etc etc I think a lot of guys claim there own lines prematurely. We started something many years back combining to famous lines, dogs were produ