Thanks lads , had a load of magpies before dark .... but where I do its dence trees about 5-10m hight somw times they get stuck .
Are any of yous after a knife I have a real nice one for sale I made and the blade is damascus steel
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Just few kills recently with my natural had more but some cant be retrived magpie was 12mm lead and dove was a 15m shot with 9.5steel
Nor mate your set up at 25-20 doubles atm would rocket 14mm leads ! Singles in cold weather I would use 30-20.... warm weather probs the same but could.use 25-20
Personly I say start off with yellow dub dub ans 9.5steel them maybe try orange dub dub with 9.5 for more wack if.you like small ammo ? Then could try 12 leads with green dub dub ?
Could try flat bands for.small steel to but.I dont use flats much as they brake to easy