Will
the 450 was really good , but the white out let it down as we all know
and I tried ever torch money could buy to no avail
the c50 I think is the same as the 450 , but with a different sensor in it
I don’t know really , but I can say this c50 really works but it does need a laser IR for range , I suppose rats and bunny bashing out to 125 yards with the supplied ir will be fine and no problem with it
if you look through the other shooting forums you will be surprised just how many 008 are for sale , I wonder why
atb