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  1. Alsone
    Have you had ricochets come back towards you? If you think it can't happen, this is quite sobering. A very lucky guy: I once had a near miss with a .22LR fired by my friend.
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    The light penetration is most likely poor because of the beam angle - 30 degrees is massive its like a torch! At 100 metres if my trig method is correct, the beam width would be 53.6 metres wide!! http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/calrtri.htm Angle a = 15 Degrees (1/2 the full angle) Side b = distance from gun to target = 100 metres So the Calculated Side a (width) = 26.8 metres Actual beam width = 2 x 26.8m = 53.6 metres diameter Also, as an aside, be careful with Class IV lasers, they can damage your eyes faster than your blink reflex can save you, literally thou
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    According to this, slightly flatter, around 0.2-0.4 inches less drop than .17 HMR on average at most distances below 250 yards - its 3 inches flatter at 250 yards. By comparison to .17 HMR, the .22 Hornet has 111 ft lbs more energy at 250 yards (163ft lbs vs 52 ft lbs) from the same table of figures - whoever put this screenshot up from the video of the WSM tests didn't include the Hornet energy figures. Although, that said nothing touches the new .17wsm though on paper in these calibres for bullet drop and wind drift resistance. For reference the .17 WSM and Hornet are almost identica
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    I never knew that. It's on the BASC website but there's no mention of it in The Deer Act that I can see. Maybe it was a later Act that amdended the provisions in respect of cwd and muntjac.
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    In Scotland for Roe but then only provided bullet exceeds 50 grains + 1,000 ft/lbs energy + 2,450ft per second.. In England and Wales min calibre is .240 with 1,700 ft/lbs energy. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1991/54/schedule/2 Worth pointing out as you don't want to get caught out.
  6. Alsone
    OK managed to find out why its not in the Uk from some internet searching although it took some finding. Apparently its a US stores own brand. Looks interesting though from the optic ratings in the video. I guess though if no-one over here has heard of it, its going to be case of risking it or not.
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    This was the air rile concerned and despite reported recent problems with these, mine did make 11.9ft lbs on the chrono (it's probably 10 years now since the incident): http://www.johnforsey.co.uk/agwprecharged_gunpower_stealth.html ..and yep the bottle was fully charged so it definately came down to the pellet choice so far as I can tell.
  8. Alsone
    No I'm not full of bull. They were shot from a vehicle in a field and never moved away from the vehicle, hence the close distances involved. As for the injuries, in each case the pointed 30 grain hunting pellet had entered the skull and the rabbit was there alive. In each case I had to get out of the vehicle, reload and shoot it again in the head from point blank. As soon as I realised it wasn't a fluke or bad luck but a genuine issue with the weapon I stopped shooting so as to avoid causing any further suffering to anything. I have no desire to shoot anything in a manner that doesn't cau
  9. Alsone
    Sounds like a good result.
  10. Alsone
    I'd say go for speed over weight. I had a .22 pre-charged air rifle that was factory certified at 11.96 ftlbs and verified at my local gunshop, and I shot some rabbits from my vehicle from around 15 feet using 30 grain pellets - I thought heavier pellets would be better and cause much greater energy transference. I was wrong! Practially every head shot, right between the eyes, failed to kill and I had to get out of the vehicle, re-load and re-shoot from point blank. After 3 shots like this, I decided the gunwasn't up to the job (although in fairness it was probably the ammo), and I s
  11. Alsone
    Found these videos (sniper 101) whilst looking around at equipment reviews. Take a look at this one and the next one in the series - Parts 21 & 22. I've watched a lot of this guys stuff and he really seems to know what he's talking about - I suspect he's an ex-US forces sniper as the guy has done shots of 1.02 miles - 1,874 yards with .338 Lapua on video and crosswinds - hit the target 1st time and several other videos where he's helped people hit targets at 1,200 yards 1st shot with a .243 - here if you want to see that one : or 1.2 miles here - When he zooms out at
  12. Alsone
    Well so far as humane shooting goes, you can't overkill something unless you're wanting something left to eat. You can however, fail to kill it instantly. To my way of thinking I'd rather cut somethng in two and guarantee an instant death than shoot it and have it run 20 or 30 yards or worse. On safety I never said you weren't safe, Decker. From your signature you appear to run a professional pest control company so I'd expect you to be both very safe and very knowledgeable, both of which you appear to be. I respect your views albeit I maybe have a less converntional method of thinking my
  13. Alsone
    I see nothing wrong with those kills providing you're not wanting the pelt or meat. At least you've guaranteed a clean kill. if you can afford the ammo..... I do agree there's a line eg. A .5 would be ridiculous against a rabbit. But I see nothing wrong with .223 against rabbit or .30WSM against fox. Necessary, maybe not with good fieldcraft or skill but personally I put humanity over skill and to that aim I don't really understand firearms licensing restrictions on calibres. Like I say there is that line which goes to the ridiculous but below that I can't see the problem. At the end of th
  14. Alsone
    I've been out with someone with a .22 rimfire for a long time now and we've never had a runner (he shoots and I spot as I'm on a SC not FAC). He also shoots .223 although I've never walked around with him whilst he's had that. I posted that because I'd never seen anything opened up like that before from even a centrefire. Phenomenal power and resulting reaction. I've seen plenty of centfire exit wounds from expanding ammunition but never a head opened like a can opener and literally hinged into 2 halves. My side point about humane killing is I have heard of plenty of runners from other
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    Yeah I've never seen a head opened up like that before, actually spilt into two clean halves and opened like a clam, immense destruction. All I can say about it is its really humane, far more than many of the recommended calibres as there's no way the fox could ever have known anything about it. If anything to me in the UK this shows how far concerns about public safety go towards restricting humane killing because its hard to think of anything as humane as that and whereas most much smaller calibre kills than that are humane, there's alwasy the chance of something not being instant wh
  16. Alsone
    Wanted to share this as the damage is just amazing but as its a found video and not a shot I've made I didn't want to put it in the fox pictures section. Shouldn't need a warning on a shooting forum, but just in case - THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC. Video sizes up very nicely full screen in HD, I recommend you use at least 720P and full screen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js6Iji0aBcE Most amazing destruction I've ever seen and clearly shows how humane and equally how overpowered the cartridge choice was. Shot in Australia with a .30 WSM! Really pretty fox as well, almost felt
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    I believe the .17HMR was launched after the guidelines were drawn up as they were both in 2002, hence why it never appeared in the list - see page 82 here: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf .Only .17 remington is listed. Maybe I wasn't precise enough with my wording saying the Home Office withdrew it - It's my understanding that many firearms departments have accepted fox shooting as good reason to hold .17HMR since those guidelines were published and the calibre was launched. Equally I understand from reports from sho
  18. Alsone
    I don't know what foxing has to do with .17HMR as to the best of my knowledge, the Home Office withdrew .17HMR as an approved calibre for fox use last year. Therefore, .17 HMR is left for the purposes of Good Reason as a small vermin round. Whereas I don't believe it stops you using it against foxes provided you make humane kills as there is no specified legal minimum calibre for fox control, it does mean that wanting to carry out fox control doesn't qualify as Good Reason any more for owning .17 HMR, which seems to be by implication their argument here, albeit in the opposite sense -
  19. Alsone
    I too would suspect the homeloads. A slight variation between the loadings could explain the difference in accuracy. As others have said, a few factory rounds would soon confirm or dispel this.
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    Done
  21. Alsone
    Yeah you're probably right. Its just very exicting to seemingly have such a powerful rimfire.
  22. Alsone
    Yeah definately and accuracy seems to be the .17 wsm's forte. In this video using test ammo and pre-production guns and a rucksac as a gun rest (!) the reporter says he's shooting 1/2 MOA groupings at both 100 & 200 yds. That's some accuracy especially with pre-production stuff! http://www.petersenshunting.com/2013/01/02/introducing-the-new-17-winchester-super-magnum/
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    Probably not a lot of help for the uk, although it may give some idea of what is happening, but I believe June is the target date for the USA. Originally it was down as Quarter 2, but appears to have slipped. Also, Savage have just been taken over by ATK, so whether or not this will have a bearing on release dates, I don't know. It certainly appears if you hunt around the internet, that there's nothing out yet in the US although 1 or 2 sites have the guns advertised but with "no stock".
  24. Alsone
    Apologies, I misread that chart, the far column is 250 not 400yds. Still 150 ft lbs @ 250 yds isn't bad. Its around the same as .22LR at the muzzle (depending on the ammo choice of course)!
  25. Alsone
    Well to me it looks like an ideal all round calibre, hence the reason why I don't see the need for anything other than .22LR if this lives up to its billing. Its ideal for small vermin control such as rabbits and grounded magpies etc as its deadly accurate and has power out to 400yds plus and very good bullet drop at 250yds when zero'ed to 150yds. I suspect 400yds is easily obtainable if zeroed further out. By the same token its an ideal fox round. Supersonic and with .22 Hornet energies even at 400yds. The only people I can't see wanting to use it would be people who want to shoot
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