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Alsone

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  1. I'd consult the BASC, because I'd say yes and no. Technically they have the power to remove guns from anyone and to revoke, the legality of the action though is different. If they're going to revoke a certificate they must show they have grounds to do so. If they have previously granted a certificate to a person with a past conviction that they considered a "fit person" to hold a certificate, then if that person hasn't done anything to raise grounds for their suitability to be questioned, then I would say they are on shaky ground for saying they are not a fit person to hold firearms, w
  2. The problem is the case pressures. Rimfire cartridges have to have a thin base to allow the firing pin to deform them and detonate that primer. So there are limits to what pressure the case can withstand and still be either safe or fire able. A heavier bullet such as a .22 would be likely to up the case pressure considerably with the same load due to the increased inertia. The .17 WSM almost matches the .17 Hornet at the muzzle for energy, which makes it remarkable in my book. However, the biggest issues atm seem to be the small number of guns chambered for it and the lack of availabi
  3. Saw a very nice powder dispenser advertised in the supplement in Octobers BASC magazine - Bush Wear. Was about £300 but automatically dispensed powder with an accuracy of 1 grain. This was the one, Lymen Gen 5 Digital Dispensing System: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tzNrN21Zpo (Added names of magazine, product and video)
  4. I 2nd electronic ear defenders. I've got some Deben and they've been brilliant. Advantage is you can hear everything as clear as day, chat, the trap releasing the clay etc. But come the bang, total protection. I have ear plugs and I have Browning Passive defenders. All I ever wear is Deben, often in the field as well as with the clays.
  5. HMR's not even the same ballpark though. WSM is nearer to .17 Hornet in performance 3,000fps and 400ft lbs.
  6. 5 or 6, opinions vary. The original question though is whether there is an all round cartridge for game and fox, and in my opinion there isn't. 5 or 6 is an all round cartridge for game. 5 will even do ducks (if steel of course). However, to be humane, fox need something heavier unless they're very very close in.
  7. I stand corrected on AAA then as I didn't think there were that many shot to a cartridge. @OP, The trouble with small shot at range is retained energy is poor down range so delivering the 40ft lbs or so they reckon is necessary for a fox sized animal becomes difficult even with a large number of hits. Too large on shot size, and whilst each individual shot has a lot more energy and better retention down range, the holes in the pattern mean the number of hits are low and so you can easily fail to deliver sufficient energy by failing to deliver sufficient hits. I agree, any cartridge
  8. Rubbish The fox I dropped at 10yrds certainly thought I was irresponsible ! Different situations allow for different solutions. AAA at 100yrds would be irresponsible as well no ? At very very close range, yes, if you don't have time to reload, No: 6 will kill. Any kind of range and they lack the power to deliver enough penetration / shock. Yes they will often kill, but there's also the potential to wound and the potential is not a minor risk at range with small shot. ..and yes AAA would be irresponsible at a lot less than 100 yards. There's no enough shot in the ca
  9. Clear pigeon no:6 or Hull Equivalent for pretty much everything EXCEPT fox. It's irresponsible to shoot fox with anything so small - always use a heavy load of No: 3 - BB.
  10. If you run the figures through gun data, a 35gr V Max Hornet has 1/2 the wind drift of a 50gr WMR (10mph 90 degree crosswind) @ 100 yds. 4.7 vs 2.8 inches. You're best bet might be a .17 Remington. 1/2 the wind drift of .22 Hornet @ 100 yds in the scenario above. Bullets used 35gr Vmax Hornet vs 20gr Remington Accutip. Windage is 2.8 inches vs 1.1 inches. Tables:
  11. Make sure you try some guns. Generally people tend to fall into 2 camps - Browning or Berretta for balance. So no better place to start than there. Find a clay ground or a dealership with a range and ask to try each. Find what you like then match something to your price range. If you like Browning then Miroku and Winchester will also probably float your boat and are cheaper if you can't afford a Browning. If you like Beretta but need a cheaper alternative, then Benelli and Franchi may also float your boat. Also, be aware that the lighter the gun, the greater the recoil. For gen
  12. You might be deaf but you can still get tinnitus plus worsen your deafness. It's never completely too late to protect you hearing.
  13. You can get a lot cheaper if you go passive. However, if you go passive, you hear nothing. With active, you can hear as well as normal - better with the volume up, so you don't miss a thing whether that's a friend whispering or an animal cracking a twig or a wing beat, but come the discharge, the amp shuts off quicker than the sound can reach the speakers so you get full protection as with passive but without any of the draw backs. Only possible drawback I can think of is battery failure, but as you'll have read, life is long. Claimed 300 hrs with the Deben. I've had mine 10 yrs (admit
  14. If you value your hearing with any shotgun then get hearing protection! Personally I'd highly recommend active protection as in the field you can then hear every little sound but still have full protection when the gun goes off. I have a pair of these: http://www.deben.com/hearing-protection/deben-electronic-ear-defenders-black.html
  15. Gees! Lovely gun, but not sure I'd want to be carrying such a military looking gun, especially in Ireland. Lovely stock on the HMR.
  16. If it's a bad fit then that's down to the shop rather than the gun. You need to be measured to the gun by the sounds of it. Maybe a visit to a either a top class gun maker or a professional at a respected clay club would be the way to go. There are quite a few clubs in the country that have past professionals / Olympic shooters as owners / instructors who should be able to make the necessary fit measurements, Browning make 3 depths of recoil pad to my knowledge, and I'm sure others make independent pads, if the XS was too short, then you need to be getting a thicker pad fitted to your
  17. Interestingly, the new 53gr .223 ammo from Hornady claims to have superior ballistics to .222: Less drop at all ranges. http://www.hornady.com/store/223-Rem-53-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/ http://www.hornady.com/store/222-Rem-50-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/
  18. I would actually amend my above statement, there should be nationwide rules which have to be adhered to, so if eg. a calibre is recommended in the table, then it would have to be granted if the shooter could show good reason for that quarry and passed all other security checks. However, there should be a discretion to grant a larger calibre outside of the table if special circumstances could be shown. eg someone on a very large estate who shoots at range. This would allow for special circumstances whilst still ensuring the police stuck to the recommended calibres on all other occasions.
  19. The big trouble is that these are only guidelines. So whilst they carry some weight, any force can if they want, simply ignore them. That said, there is a long history of some forces making their own rules up for firearms licensing. To my mind, there needs to be one central law that isn't a guideline but a gospel and any firearms dept that doesn't follow it, should be subject to fines which are compulsory not discretionary in their application. So if a regional dept steps out of line, it's not only admonished but it's hit in the pocket.
  20. Didn't know they restricted .243's. My friend has .22LR, .223 and .30-06 all open and all AOLQ.
  21. My friend in Derbyshire has LR conditioned against fox. So does everyone else in Derbyshire... Yeah my point was, Derbyshire are a really good force.
  22. Just found the HSE advice for this - they recommend 5J max for security fencing, so much higher than what the animal fencing company advise avoiding contact with.
  23. .17 Hornet if you don't want to reload.
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