MINSHAW X MINSHAW DONT NO WHATS FULLY IN THEM BUT NOT BOTHERD IM HAPPY WITH THEM WHEN THEY BOTH WORK BOTH DONT DECENT TALLYS RETREIVED PLENTY OF DRIVE STAM AND FAST ENOUGH THE SIRE JUST GETS USED ON LAMP THE DAMS BEEN RAN DAY OR NIGHT EVERYWERE SIRE IS 26 INCH RACY BUILT THE DAM IS 24 RACY BUT COMPACT WICH IS WHAT I LIKE SO SHUD BE INTRESTING TO SEE HOW THEY TURN OUT