hi crowhawker, i had a look straight away mate. im a bit put off by the diferant type of member stuff, and you need people allready in to speak up for you. thats great if you know someone. all i want to do is meet up with like minded people now and then, for a natter about our pasion. and have the odd walk out with the birds. i would happyly take people on my permisions with me once i got to know them. cheers browner.