thanks lads for advise,Scot how did you know my head has been bobbin about trying to get a clear sight.thanks for that tip will give it a try.had a practice today at dinner time,shooting down the workshop at a target on the wall about 19 meters away standing supported put a few shots on the target still shooting to the left made adjustment to scope bringing shots to the right seemed to be getting better results tried hard today on squeezing trigger rather than pulling it. dinner time coming to an end so i try a few unsupported shots,it's not easy,Ok time to go back to work one last shot 1/4"i