Well a got to the gun shop had £300 in pocket just incase sum cort my eye had a at a few scopes and ended up coming home with the hawke varmint sf 3-12x44 £139 and he tossed me free mounts in for all the trouble av had and was even looking for a sun shade for me but didn't have any 44s thn end up buying a new lil knife aswell so quite impressed with the hawke stuff