Knock away pal. One thing I find is you have to time it right. Its no good going at the end of the season asking for permission because if you get it, go once and the don't turn up again until September it's easily lost. Go early on, August/September. Go a few times to get their trust and then hit the ground hard all winter. Even if you're not catching much kid on that you are. They'll see how keen you are and it usually leads to more permission, that's how its worked for me. Another good one is to get one farm go to the neighboring one drop his name and say "If they're on his, They're on your