Chocolate fire gaurd... you sound like my saluki in the field mate!! Spoke to woodend earlier their shut for refurb for a few days so need to give him a bell back later in the week - thanks for that. Neither at the moment I'm afraid mate I havent shot for about 6-7 years or so apart from the odd bit of clay, used to work live on a fish farm with 300 acres of rough shoot did no end when I was there but not really done much since. Toying with going down the shotgun route but at the minute can't really justify it will see how I get on with the air riffle for a bit first, my mrs is a farm feed rep