Strange thing opinions about players ,two players I thought we're awful ,I absolutely never rated them were Phil Neal and Ronnie Whelan ,I argued til I was blue in the face with anyone and everyone that they were crap ,I tried to see what I was missing ,I went to games and just watched them ,and was convinced more than ever they were fourth division standard ,but they were rated by st Bob and international managers ,won a few medals and caps between them ,so in the end I reached the conclusion that I know fk all about football ,it was a harsh lesson to learn